Degrowth was already proposed in 1850s by JS Mill "Most advanced" countries already had enough, just needed better distribution In 1850, UK was below Bangladesh today Bad argument then Probably bad argument today https://thebreakthrough.org/journal/no-13-winter-2021/degrowth-in-the-age-of-dickens …pic.twitter.com/DyEz33Iiwk
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Kiitos. Käytämme tätä aikajanasi parantamiseen. KumoaKumoa
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So USA needs more growth to deal with homeless camps? f-35 development would pay for houses and therapy for all this people
Kiitos. Käytämme tätä aikajanasi parantamiseen. KumoaKumoa
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The more people have, the less they appreciate it.
Kiitos. Käytämme tätä aikajanasi parantamiseen. KumoaKumoa
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Suppose the 'have enough' assumption were valid i.e. economies could ‘willingly’ operate within production possibilities, how then would allocation happen in such a post scarcity situation? Why would international trade work? Does ZIRP indicate zero opportunity cost is near?
Kiitos. Käytämme tätä aikajanasi parantamiseen. KumoaKumoa
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This argument amounts to "some things are good now, so an alternative approach suggested ~175 years ago was wrong. Therefore we shouldn't do something only vaguely similar now." Degrowth advocates today are different from Mill and you should engage those not a strawman from 1850
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The crucial point is the same as in 1850: if we ever stop making progress, we'll never reach a star trek like future. We're as far from "post-scarcity" now as our ancestors were back then.
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I've been wondering about the link between modern environmentalism and Victorian philosophers who hated the industrial revolution.
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Interesting topic for study
#EcosystemServicesKiitos. Käytämme tätä aikajanasi parantamiseen. KumoaKumoa
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J.S. Mill was one of the greatest economists in his time. You have to take 19th century England for what it was for context. In the 21st century it doesn't hold up. People were largely wedded to their occupation or the land (where they were tenant farmers).
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The UK really wouldn't become a somewhat egalitarian society until the late 1960s. I'd love to see their Gini coefficients in 1913, 1928, 1950, and 1969.
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