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    1. Bertie_222‏ @Bertie_222 11 Dec 2020
      Replying to @gorskon @JaiKanta22

      Glad to know that. Would you be willing to tell me your concerns with this study? https://medicalpressopenaccess.com/upload/1605709669_1007.pdf …

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    2. David Young‏ @davideyoungmd 11 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Bertie_222 @gorskon @JaiKanta22

      1) Not randomized, (not even contemporary) 2) single institution, 3) small study and 4) wrong endpoint. There are a lot of biases that creep in here. Perhaps there were just as many Covid in the treatment group but the cultures didn't work because of the spray. Worthless.

      3 replies 1 retweet 15 likes
    3. Bertie_222‏ @Bertie_222 11 Dec 2020
      Replying to @davideyoungmd @gorskon @JaiKanta22

      In other words, not "perfect". Many of these imperfect studies are all coming to the same conclusion. Would you only consider RCTs, or is there a point at which these imperfect studies would convince you it is worth the risk? They give this to healthy people to prevent scabies...

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    4. David Young‏ @davideyoungmd 11 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Bertie_222 @gorskon @JaiKanta22

      What you don't know, Bertie, is how many studies do not come to that conclusion. Known as "how big is your filing cabinet?" For every "study" that suggests that IVM is helpful, there may be 10 studies that do not. But those studies are not "famous", they are.... 1/2

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    5. Bertie_222‏ @Bertie_222 11 Dec 2020
      Replying to @davideyoungmd @gorskon @JaiKanta22

      Wouldn't they all be here? There are 43 studies going on (is it mass hysteria?) Of the completed studies with results, ivermectin comes out as effective in mosthttps://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?cond=Covid19&term=ivermectin&cntry=&state=&city=&dist= …

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    7. Bertie_222‏ @Bertie_222 11 Dec 2020
      Replying to @JaiKanta22 @davideyoungmd @gorskon

      Does your interpretation of what I am presenting depend on my education? I have an education in applied and statistical economics, if that matters. I understand about issues with selective stats. That's why I have been following this since April and the data keep building

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    9. Bertie_222‏ @Bertie_222 11 Dec 2020
      Replying to @JaiKanta22 @davideyoungmd @gorskon

      By the way, that hurts. I think I know more about data and statistics than most doctors - at least I took more graduate-level classes than they did, and I can interpret study results. If the data on ivermectin show later that it worked, will you at least admit I am prescient?

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    10. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 11 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Bertie_222 @JaiKanta22 @davideyoungmd

      Funny, but if all that's true it sure doesn't show in your Tweets.

      1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
      Bertie_222‏ @Bertie_222 11 Dec 2020
      Replying to @gorskon @JaiKanta22 @davideyoungmd

      Ouch. You really got me. Have you heard there are 100,000 people in hospitals right now? I suggest you work on your bedside manner

      10:30 AM - 11 Dec 2020
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        2. Bertie_222‏ @Bertie_222 11 Dec 2020
          Replying to @JaiKanta22 @gorskon @davideyoungmd

          We are on a flippin' social media platform. Save that for people who try to present something at a professional conference that they don't know about. I'm trying to get a discussion going.

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        1. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 11 Dec 2020
          Replying to @Bertie_222 @JaiKanta22 @davideyoungmd

          This isn’t the bedside, and you are not a patient or potential patient of mine.

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        1. Kyle Swanson MD‏ @kiswanson 11 Dec 2020
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          Bedside manner is for, you know, the patient bedside

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