But will the health insurance companies ever allow anything close to this? There's SO much $$ in it.
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Allow? We have to stand together & fight like Hell. Of course they won't "allow".
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That's my point. It's a HUGE machine.
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The insurance companies aren't even the huge machine we need to worry about. Pharma will fight this like you wouldn't believe, and they make so much money they can throw millions into advertising against it at the drop of a hat. We'll all have to brace ourselves and hold fast.
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I would STRONGLY recommend that everyone invested in getting universal guaranteed healthcare get involved with an singe-payer advocacy org. I wrote up a list of national and state orgs here:https://medium.com/@redwoodgirl/single-payer-medicare-for-all-organizations-in-the-us-de6f26adafe9 …
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every time a dem socialist or progressive gets asked how to pay for M4A, just for fun they should answer: “how do you plan on paying for the current more expensive system while also pulling it out of 3rd world rankings and covering everyone?”
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It would bankrupt America
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No we wouldn’t be bankrupt. Medicare For All will save $2 trillion a year....just the rich would be out a little more money! that is a beautiful thing! Trickle down economics doesn’t work. You can’t keep your money. You have to pay taxes and a lot of them!
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Just read your profile description, Yarnie. Holy cow, are you a glutton for punishment. Keep fighting!!!!!!!! You're an inspiration!!!



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Thank you! My boss doesn’t pick on me about being progressive but the listener sometimes drive me crazy with what they say so I often have to turn the monitor down.
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As long as you keep facts and sources close at hand, you’ll easily be able to thrive there
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I do. It’s radio and it’s entertainment. No conservative host believes everything they are saying. It’s all acting. So I as a producer I pretend that I’m one of them when I just really want to vomit on them!
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And it would save $2 Trillion over the first decade immediately following it’s implementation. I did the numbers. With that much money we could bail out the farmers 166 times and still have enough left over to pay off 41 prostitutes!!
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Actually they claim closer to 500b and nothing the government does, comes in at budget! The real number would be closer to 35-40t a decade! Would double our national budget!
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@joefirestonephd ) the US has approx $1.5T per yr in policy space -B4 inflation. Med4All costs (net) approx $750B per yr. All Congress has 2 do is vote "yes" - & then fully fund. No new tax is required. -
And we all know that is incorrect and a pipe dream, Medicaire in current form costs 11k per person on the program
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Yep. And once everyone is getting healthcare, our overall costs will start going down. Our costs are high in part because many people don't get healthcare when it would be cheap to fix problems so they wait til it gets expensive. Makes me fucking crazy that people don't get that.
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Not when you are only expectIng to pay 40% of the bill, the system will implode in on itself, much like social security they will end up raising taxes until we send 50% of our paycheck just to the Feds! Want to see low wages just implement this, we already see 15% because of ss!
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