Yes, incels are 100% wrong on consent. If they could just get what they are after from a professional, they might then be able to see the irrationality of wanting consent for themselves but not for women, I think that's where you were going?
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.... The initial problem that led to the incel groups in the first place, which was they got shut out of dating early on?
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The problem started before kindergarten. Every movie shows the hero earning the girl. Every boy is taught "boys will be boys" and that they deserve a girlfriend someday. It is drilled into them from birth, YES FROM BIRTH, that we are theirs for the taking. We're not.
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And they get upset because we DARE to tell them "no". We "shut them out" from dating. THEY
NEVER
WANTED
TO
DATE
Dating involves two humans coming together on equal footing and that is impossible and undesirable to someone who views the other as less. -
They want the fantasy they were promised - a gorgeous woman awarded to them as a prize for checking of specific life goals. "I have a job" so fucking what "I'm good at sports" woo "I'm an actor" "I'm 25" That shit doesn't matter. A woman is not a prize. She's a human being.
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These incels think they've been cheated out of the sex with a woman they think they've earned by existing. YOU
CAN
NOT
EARN
SEX
Period.
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Ok, let me make sure I'm getting this right here. You're saying that modern, or more or less modern, socialization causes men to feel entitled to sex and be incels when they can't get it, because of movies and social expectations from childhood, is that right?
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Absolutely. Men are taught they have a right to sex. They don't. Full stop. End of story.
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Ok. So, if that's the source of the problem, how are they supposed to know to stop? Where are they supposed to be exposed to the knowledge that "hey, you know that thing, in the movies, where you're owed sex as the prize? Yeah that's actually bad." If they don't go to....
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