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Alleged writer and Crikey politics editor. These days mainly here for the greyhounds.

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crikey.com.au
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    Bernard Keane‏Verified account @BernardKeane 7 Jun 2016

    Puzzled @CroweDM why you describe Chris Murphy as "independent" when he was employed by Treasury work on its tax modelling.

    3:05 PM - 7 Jun 2016
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      2. David Crowe‏Verified account @CroweDM 7 Jun 2016
        Replying to @BernardKeane

        His firm did work for Treasury when Labor was in power in 2010, then again in 2011, and now under Coalition government.

        1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
      3. Bernard Keane‏Verified account @BernardKeane 7 Jun 2016
        Replying to @CroweDM

        I'm sure his firm is excellent, but isn't he in effect defending modelling he himself helped Treasury undertake?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. David Crowe‏Verified account @CroweDM 7 Jun 2016
        Replying to @BernardKeane

        Sure but if Grattan Institute defended its work would it suddenly not be independent?

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      5. Bernard Keane‏Verified account @BernardKeane 7 Jun 2016
        Replying to @CroweDM

        if Grattan defends its own modelling, it is self-interested, however independent the original modelling was. same here.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. David Crowe‏Verified account @CroweDM 7 Jun 2016
        Replying to @BernardKeane

        He's independent. Chris Murphy currently a visiting fellow at ANU. You may disagree with his findings but that's economics.

        2 replies 1 retweet 0 likes
      7. Bernard Keane‏Verified account @BernardKeane 7 Jun 2016
        Replying to @CroweDM

        but however good he is, definitionally he's not "independent" if he's defending work he contributed to. not sure why that's unclear

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      2. Jasper  🌈‏ @AncillaryJasper 7 Jun 2016
        Replying to @BernardKeane @CroweDM

        Shouldn't Treasury have the best modellers in the country? I'm worried that they need to outsource!

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Bernard Keane‏Verified account @BernardKeane 7 Jun 2016
        Replying to @AncillaryJasper @CroweDM

        nothing wrong with outsourcing - they don't spend every day of the week modelling the economy.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. David Crowe‏Verified account @CroweDM 7 Jun 2016
        Replying to @BernardKeane @AncillaryJasper

        Treasury relied on own staff + Chris Murphy + KPMG. Similar to what it did with Labor company tax cut 2010.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Tim Mackay  🎓 💲‏ @timqfadvice 7 Jun 2016
        Replying to @CroweDM @BernardKeane @AncillaryJasper

        Which would mean 3 parties categorically not independent on that work are Treas own staff, CM & KPMG

        1 reply 1 retweet 0 likes
      6. David Crowe‏Verified account @CroweDM 7 Jun 2016
        Replying to @timqfadvice @BernardKeane @AncillaryJasper

        So he's good enough for Treasury under both Labor and Liberal, now at ANU... play ball not man.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Tim Mackay  🎓 💲‏ @timqfadvice 7 Jun 2016
        Replying to @CroweDM @BernardKeane @AncillaryJasper

        I assume good enough or wouldn't pay for services. But pay to work, lose perception of independence

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