@Br_Tr @cameronwilson hmmm? so? sorry the stats don't tell the story you want.
@mike_salter @Br_Tr @cameronwilson so you're quoting FARE's confected "social cost" modelling instead of independent rigorous data?
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@BernardKeane@Br_Tr@cameronwilson nope. i'm interested in the entire evidence base rather than cherry picking for ideological reasons. -
@mike_salter@Br_Tr@cameronwilson dodgy "social cost" modelling doesn't form part of any "evidence base" except for public health lobbyists -
@BernardKeane@Br_Tr@cameronwilson it's not definitive but its part of the overall picture -
@mike_salter@Br_Tr@cameronwilson "not definitive"? That sort of modelling is horseshit - whether it's used by industry or health bodies -
@BernardKeane@Br_Tr@cameronwilson your argument is inconsistent. you call govt funded ABS 'independent' but govt funded FARE 'lobbyists'. -
@mike_salter@Br_Tr@cameronwilson ABS has no interest in whether there's an 'alcohol crisis'. FARE et al have a direct financial interest. -
@BernardKeane@Br_Tr@cameronwilson so your argument is that alcohol researchers inflate or invent their findings for financial reasons -
@mike_salter@Br_Tr@cameronwilson I argue they do exactly what lobbyists in other industries do - commission modelling to suit their needs - 4 more replies
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