I totally agree that backing *any* NEG, and declaring any resistance to it *politics* is completely idiotic. It means people are not across the detail. 26% is indefensible. I'm not in the chuck it camp though. Ambition needs to be argued and fixed.
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The problem with chuck it is what's the alternative? Some opponents think a RET/CET. In what parliament? I think the alternative is a proper carbon price, then you don't need subsidies. But again, what parliament? You can say chuck it & have disorderly transition but

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I can't work out what we'd lose if a NEG with legislated target didn't go ahead, compared to status quo.
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1. Structure around a transition that impacts a lot of people & the economy. 2. An opportunity to change the politics & have rational Libs back away slowly from past idiocy. This latter point may be impossible, but worth a try IMHO.
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judging by what they did to Turnbull it is indeed impossible.
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Meanwhile out in reader/voter land, we’re just sitting here watching the wheels go ‘round and ‘round…
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Same here. Same view.
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But the whole idiotic thing has arisen because of just a few recalcitrant coalition backbenchers. When are we going to stop letting the tail wag the dog? Surely it's time these fools were muzzled?
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"Oh but we're so sick of both sides dithering.... oh except for that time Juliar implemented a Great Big Tax. But we soon stopped that"
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Political solution that doesn't reduce carbon emissions enough to meet Paris agreement and tries to protect coal.
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everybody in the coalition and who advocates for them deserves to be hurt grievously for what they’ve done to us
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I say we just wait for the next election.
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Our own Chief Scientist has admitted that nothing Australia does will make a scrap of difference to the climate.
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I really don't understand all the hype. It's just another giant shark movie.
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Thats correct




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Sue the climate deniers..
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Must not happen!
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