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    Bernard Keane‏Verified account @BernardKeane Jul 28

    Bernard Keane Retweeted Dr Julia Baird

    And ultimately, while disclosure is important, it doesn't override the need to engage with the ideas someone is advocating. The onus is on critics to explain WHY an IPA guest's ideas are wrong, not just dismiss them because they don't reveal donors etc.https://twitter.com/bairdjulia/status/1023170149845594112 …

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    Dr Julia BairdVerified account @bairdjulia
    So I will only say: of course -@ellenmfanning and I advocate transparency and disclosure. We are journalists. We often argue with potential guests on this exact subject. But we also need to counter bias, vitriol, assumption on here. It is corrosive, distracting, silo-forming.
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      1. D5vid Chalmers‏ @ActualChalmers Jul 28
        Replying to @BernardKeane @SallyRMelb

        Bullshit, Bernard. Context is everything. On energy policy for eg, why would I ‘engage‘ with the ideas of a science-denying ideologue from the IPA? Simply inviting them to take part in that discussion would be an affront to rational debate.

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      1. Mortimer Bellend CQ‏ @dotarding Jul 28
        Replying to @BernardKeane

        The national broadcaster needs more climate deniers on. Look forward to the holocaust deniers getting a look in too

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      1. steve beams‏ @dazzlerrange Jul 28
        Replying to @BernardKeane

        I must have missed the ep when the IPA rep discussed ideas...

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      2. SRPassesItOn‏ @SallyRMelb Jul 28
        Replying to @BernardKeane

        Yeah but be realistic- That’s much easier to do for you three paid media professionals with blue ticks & regular public forums than it is for ordinary frustrated people to do on twitter, even if they use a thread! @bairdjulia @ellenmfanning

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      3. Comrade Rosie Williams‏ @Info_Aus Aug 5
        Replying to @SallyRMelb @BernardKeane and

        Exactly- this attack on the audience is the most spurious case of bullshit I've ever seen.

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      1. Comrade Rosie Williams‏ @Info_Aus Aug 5
        Replying to @BernardKeane

        I'm pretty sure one of the major criticisms people have of the IPA is the questionable integrity of some of their research. It's actually the media's job to interrogate these weaknesses, not defend them & attack the public for expecting better from you.

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      1. Robin Herbert‏ @robin_her Jul 28
        Replying to @BernardKeane

        I would have thought it incumbent upon them to demonstrate that their ideas are right. But I won't apologise for questioning the spurious air of authority generated by some people deciding to call themselves an 'institute'

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      1. Jackie‏ @jaquix173 Jul 28
        Replying to @BernardKeane

        Correct. But disclosing membership of IPA is a great short cut to someone's background.

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      1. Agent Arioch [Umbra]‏ @the_LoungeFly Jul 28
        Replying to @BernardKeane @bairdjulia

        #TheDrum panel repeatedly just wave through lies without any challenges..we are not just talking about 2018..we are talking about 2017, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013..when the IPA were on every week lobbying their agenda..it seems their political goals have been achieved now...

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      1. CLV155‏ @colinelvy1 Jul 28
        Replying to @BernardKeane @bairdjulia

        Exactly Bernard. They can’t just ‘pronounce their wisdom ‘ without producing evidence to support their views. We’re all interested to see

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      1. Paul Begley‏ @yelgeb Jul 28
        Replying to @BernardKeane

        @ABCthedrum's obligation is to provide credible perspectives from left, right and centre to get an airing of genuinely contestable ideas. But if one of the guests, ostensibly there to provide 'balance', can only offer exasperating perversity, respectful debate is the casualty.

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      1. Andrew Thaler 4 EdenMonaro‏ @andrew_thaler Jul 28
        Replying to @BernardKeane

        Julia is protected from criticism .. don’t forget who her brother is.

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      1. 44 foto‏ @4inForty4Foto Jul 31
        Replying to @BernardKeane @SimonJCowan

        difficult upfront question of whether the party is really engaging with ideas, the successful development and deployment of conspiracy theories v climate science was never genuine, and trickle down has 40 years of evidence it does damage but some still want to share the 'idea'

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      1. adamfinitum‏ @ozwah Jul 29
        Replying to @BernardKeane

        This ignores the fact that the cost of generating bullshit is 1/10th the cost of negating it. It’s not a fair fight. That is how they tie you down - by using your good faith against you. Enough.

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      1. CLV155‏ @colinelvy1 Jul 28
        Replying to @BernardKeane @bairdjulia

        And the IPA on how their pronouncement is supported by evidence

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