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Talking with some a boy at my daughters school, I learned even more about how deep the iMessage lock-in is for US teens. A brief thread on US Gen Z and the iMessage Lock-In:
I was talking to one of my daughter's friends, male 16 yrs old, and I noticed he made the switch to iPhone from Android. Having spoken with him before I knew he was an "Android guy" by self-identification, so I was shocked he made the jump.
When I asked him why he made the jump, he sounded a bit remorse. It all came down to being left out of group chats. His quote verbatim, "we would start a new group chat, and the group would realize I was the reason it was green, and they would start another group chat without me
I had a hard time believing this because often these group chats are used for school, as a part of a class. Kids will have a group chat just for that class with their friends to talk about homework, projects, etc. However, he assured me he was being left out of group chats.
Specifically, he was being left out of group chats because he was on Android and turned the thread green. Hard to believe sometimes, until you hear it, but the iMessage lock-in is real. Ultimately there were things he liked about iPhone, but he did miss his Pixel 2. The end
Lol. Is it really lock in though? Or is it just ppl not wanting to see green bubbles?
Well those kids aren’t leaving if they will be shunned from group chats if they switch. Social lock in perhaps.
Right? That’s a good way to phrase it.
Totally not the same thing, but my local Pokémon Go community only uses Facebook Messenger so it’s keep it installed and logged in or miss out on raids and events. (A very few groups have discord bot access but you get the ugly relay equivalent of a green bubble.)
This is so strange from a UK perspective. Over here we use WhatsApp so the power of the blue bubble is basically zero...
This is so weird to me - it seems like Europe is more hostile to Facebook anything but then embraces WhatsApp as their defacto chat service?
WhatsApp is the main service here in Europe (or Italy at least) long before Facebook acquired it.
Right. But given what seems like a strong resentment of it, I would have thought it would have spurred a migration elsewhere.
To those who support at 100% Telegram (the main alternative here, beside FB Messenger) I always say: what should a chat app do? Connect people. Then, the app with more people, or users, wins because I can reach more people. And people here are nowhere near to think "oh WA is FB!"
Is it because it’s green and not blue? Or are they bothered by something else? Using up SMS? (is that still a thing?) Not being e2e encrypted? (surprise if it’s that)
The green bubble stigma is part of it for sure, but for me at least, part of that stigma has to do with the functionality you lose when you switch to SMS. The SMS protocol makes "tap backs" and stickers and other stuff work differently (and worse).
yeah it turns the emotes into text messages that say "so-and-so added a heart to "this and that""
emotes are a very useful part of this format, especially in a group context
Videos also send at a low resolution and way smaller than expected. Messages take forever to send. Etc.
Also security/privacy! Not that most people are considering this though. Many phone bills still show all numbers you’ve SMSd with though. Something parents might and could check unlike apps.
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