All you are saying may be true or not, but I don't see how any of it means dungeons are obsolete? How can they be obsolete if you cite them as 1 of only 2 ways to progress?
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Replying to @TaliesinEvitel @WatcherDev
I'm working on a video right now with a fresh level 120 character getting geared up for WF. Let's just say it isn't looking good for Normal/Heroic/Mythic 0 dungeons which are the difficulties Ion is talking about. The argument has never been about Mythic+
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Replying to @heelvsbabyface @WatcherDev
I look forward to watching it. Atm I can't imagine many players were running Heroic or even M0 dungeons after ilvl 320 anyway tbh and if they really are resolute about not entering raids or M+ then they might even appreciate the helping hand Warfronts gives them.
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Replying to @TaliesinEvitel @WatcherDev
Wfs aren't a helping hand, they are a hand me out. There is no skill to them at all, they have been designed to make sure there isn't. There is no challenge, no risk, no danger, nothing. It is a gear distribution system for the apathetic.
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Replying to @heelvsbabyface @WatcherDev
But you what about those members of your audience you bring up who for whatever reason don't want to go past M0 level? Might an ilvl bump (that they wouldn't have got otherwise) help them make the jump into raids or M+? And if not, isn't WF just something else for them to do?
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Replying to @TaliesinEvitel @WatcherDev
Easy. Normal - Heroic - Mythic 0 dungeons become the nature curve of progression which WFs completely destroyed. Also (correct me if I'm wrong) do you think that WFs are a good and worthy piece of content to WoW that rewards accordingly based on its difficulty level?
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Replying to @heelvsbabyface @WatcherDev
My opinion of the quality of WF content is irrelevant - I just disagree with you that they make Normal and Heroic Dungeons obsolete? No one is running that content at 320. I don't even think they make M0 obsolete (they give the same base rewards).
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Replying to @TaliesinEvitel @WatcherDev
Same base reward for a fraction of the effort... the path of least resistance. Enjoy the video later....
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Replying to @heelvsbabyface @WatcherDev
Again that can be true if you like but again... how does that destroy the progression path of N-H-M0 dungeons? How does it make dungeons obsolete? How does a 7day a month event giving people gear they can better in a M+4 count as a handout?
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I enjoyed the dry heave that came out of my raider friend when I had the same ilvl as him after 1 day /played when he had 5
after the horde wf. We mathed it out, essentially the WF doesn’t dupe, so it’s mega quick for the initial set. Like spooky quick.2 replies 0 retweets 13 likes
I think the not dupeing is the bit that’s getting lost when it comes to gearing speed. Tbh I think they could probably revamp rewards for Wfs. Perhaps give us stuff based on what we do in the WF. Have quests n shit.
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Replying to @BellularGaming @TaliesinEvitel and
have difficulties and allow queuing as groups ... a pvp mode like islands..
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