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    1. Oatmeal Agitante‏ @BagelDaughter 2 Sep 2016
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      Any examples of programs which, as of our understanding today, have roughly 1:1 odds of halting? (No random numbers allowed duh)

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    2. Oatmeal Agitante‏ @BagelDaughter 3 Sep 2016
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      My goal was to ask if the frontier of humanity's knowledge search is likely to produce "undecidable"s or just "hard"s

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    3. Oatmeal Agitante‏ @BagelDaughter 3 Sep 2016
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      Halting problem uses a trivial construction of undecidability. My intuition is that "nontrivially undecidable" does not exist

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    4. Frame Of Stack‏ @FrameOfStack 22 Sep 2016
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      The Arithmetic Hierarchy gives an infinite hierarchy of classes of undecidability harder than halting. Are all 'trivial'?

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    5. Oatmeal Agitante‏ @BagelDaughter 23 Sep 2016
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      no, not "trivial". But, "contrived"? Not increasing the risk that I will stumble upon an undecidable problem by chance?

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    6. Frame Of Stack‏ @FrameOfStack 23 Sep 2016
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      Ahh.

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    7. Frame Of Stack‏ @FrameOfStack 23 Sep 2016
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      How about these? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_undecidable_problems …

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    8. Oatmeal Agitante‏ @BagelDaughter 23 Sep 2016
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      I'm not familiar enough with group theory or topology to comment on those. Among the rest, it seems to break down into 2 forms

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    9. Oatmeal Agitante‏ @BagelDaughter 23 Sep 2016
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      1. Instantiate the halting problem in X. (trivial) 2. X produces pseudorandom behavior which can't be predicted. (maybe not)

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      Oatmeal Agitante‏ @BagelDaughter 23 Sep 2016
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      I think I'd be satisfied with 2 if X is of substantial consequence elsewhere in the field

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        1. Moral Of Story‏ @MoralOfStory 23 Sep 2016
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          X could be e.g. P=NP

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        2. Oatmeal Agitante‏ @BagelDaughter 23 Sep 2016
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          yes, when originally formulating the question, I thought of that as being highly likely to halt (and be false)

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