criticism of wireheading often argues it implies the same; if your pleasure is sated, you won't care for others
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Replying to @BagelDaughter @gabrielduquette
wire heading implies not doing things for others because you're just doing things to make yourself happy
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Replying to @drethelin @gabrielduquette
or that "ethical good" is embedded in our brains' reward system & can be circumvented to achieve "hedonic good"
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I think you could be a solipsist or a wireheader and still be aesthetically repulsed by antisocial behavior
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Replying to @BagelDaughter @gabrielduquette
I would say insofar as you care about what's going on outside of you're head you're not wire heading
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Replying to @drethelin @gabrielduquette
ah well we disagree on definitions then. I think of it as artificially maxing out pleasure, no other assumptions
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Replying to @BagelDaughter @gabrielduquette
I don't think you can max out pleasure and leave interacting with other things untouched
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Replying to @drethelin @gabrielduquette
I'm skeptical that maxed out pleasure leads to inaction. We assume relationships between motivation and pleasure
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Replying to @BagelDaughter @gabrielduquette
it's not about motivation: that much pleasure renders you unable to do much
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people don't inject heroin and then go about their day the same but happier, usually
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yeah but heroin also causes extreme respiratory depression, impaired memory and focus, etc
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