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Code farmer. Security, crypto, performance, networking, usability. Rust, C++, C, Haskell, DSLs, etc. *ring*, webpki, crypto-bench, mozilla::pkix.

Honolulu & San Francisco
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    1. Ryan Hurst‏Verified account @rmhrisk 25 Aug 2014
      Replying to @sleevi_

      @sleevi_ yeah but not just MS problem so encourages identification of YAF (yet-another-forum) for basically the same class of problems.

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    2. Ryan Hurst‏Verified account @rmhrisk 25 Aug 2014
      Replying to @rmhrisk

      @sleevi_ I think it's better for Internet for healthy standard practices to be developed and think discouraging this is bad. My 2-bits.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Ryan Sleevi‏ @sleevi_ 25 Aug 2014
      Replying to @rmhrisk

      @rmhrisk as noted, it really is a MSFT problem. CS vendors are not outsourcing security to CAs - and for dozens of good reasons.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Ryan Hurst‏Verified account @rmhrisk 25 Aug 2014
      Replying to @sleevi_

      @sleevi_ IMHO this position sounds like not invented here (aka google) vs it's in best interest of the Internet which is why I don't love it

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Ryan Sleevi‏ @sleevi_ 25 Aug 2014
      Replying to @rmhrisk

      @rmhrisk OK Cem ;) Look at the proposals to have ISVs voting on SSL policy as browsers. Or the IPR policy. Or the anti-openness of the WG.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Peter Bowen‏ @pzb 25 Aug 2014
      Replying to @sleevi_

      @sleevi_ @rmhrisk CA/Trust Store Forum where members have roles. GOOG: CA&B, Moz: B&Code, ADBE: Code, MSFT: CA,B,&Code, SYMC: CA?

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Ryan Sleevi‏ @sleevi_ 25 Aug 2014
      Replying to @pzb

      @pzb @rmhrisk There's virtually no reason where CodeSigning CA provides value over AppStore-style CA.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Ryan Hurst‏Verified account @rmhrisk 25 Aug 2014
      Replying to @sleevi_

      @sleevi_ @pzb but this isn't a argument about which approach is better for Internet.

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    9. Ryan Sleevi‏ @sleevi_ 25 Aug 2014
      Replying to @rmhrisk

      @rmhrisk @pzb @BRIAN_____ saying CS BRs are relevant to Apple/Moz/Google is like saying SSL BRs are applicable to S/MIME.

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    10. Ryan Hurst‏Verified account @rmhrisk 25 Aug 2014
      Replying to @sleevi_

      @sleevi_ @pzb @BRIAN_____ it's not that it relevant to those companies, it's that it's relevant to the the internet.

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      Brian Smith‏ @BRIAN_____ 25 Aug 2014
      Replying to @rmhrisk

      @rmhrisk @sleevi_ @pzb Code signing practices for apps will get standardized cross-browser in W3C. But CABForum CAs prb won't be relevant.

      9:53 PM - 25 Aug 2014
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        2. Ryan Hurst‏Verified account @rmhrisk 25 Aug 2014
          Replying to @BRIAN_____

          @BRIAN_____ @sleevi_ @pzb W3C doesn't standardize operating practices they standardize protocols and formats.

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        3. Brian Smith‏ @BRIAN_____ 25 Aug 2014
          Replying to @rmhrisk

          @rmhrisk @sleevi_ @pzb Right. I predict protocols and formats will get standardized, and operating practices won't be.

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        4. Ryan Hurst‏Verified account @rmhrisk 25 Aug 2014
          Replying to @BRIAN_____

          @BRIAN_____ @sleevi_ @pzb but as long as operating practices have impact on security of Internet they should be.

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        5. Brian Smith‏ @BRIAN_____ 25 Aug 2014
          Replying to @rmhrisk

          @rmhrisk @sleevi_ @pzb In that case, let's standardize coding style, programming language choice, code review practices, hiring, etc. first.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Ryan Hurst‏Verified account @rmhrisk 25 Aug 2014
          Replying to @BRIAN_____

          @BRIAN_____ @sleevi_ @pzb I agree these things are important but now your being silly...

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        7. Ryan Hurst‏Verified account @rmhrisk 25 Aug 2014
          Replying to @rmhrisk

          @BRIAN_____ @sleevi_ @pzb for most part if adopted the things they want to adopt provide immediate value to Internet.

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        8. Brian Smith‏ @BRIAN_____ 25 Aug 2014
          Replying to @rmhrisk

          @rmhrisk @sleevi_ @pzb Nobody is disputing that. MS can adopt those things in its own CA program at any time to get that improvement.

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        9. Ryan Hurst‏Verified account @rmhrisk 25 Aug 2014
          Replying to @BRIAN_____

          @BRIAN_____ @sleevi_ @pzb seems like an argument to do away with cabf; aka instead of docing best practices in one place everyone do on own.

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        1. Brian Smith‏ @BRIAN_____ 25 Aug 2014
          Replying to @BRIAN_____

          @rmhrisk @sleevi_ @pzb Consequently, what to do about code signing CABForum CAs is a legacy issue for MS, not a future-oriented project.

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