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Code farmer. Security, crypto, performance, networking, usability. Rust, C++, C, Haskell, DSLs, etc. *ring*, webpki, crypto-bench, mozilla::pkix.

Honolulu & San Francisco
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    1. Alex Stamos‏Verified account @alexstamos Sep 26

      1) We need to keep E2E encryption legal in the financially relevant jurisdictions. That includes the US, the EU, and India at a minimum. (4/13)

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    2. Alex Stamos‏Verified account @alexstamos Sep 26

      2) We need to find a sustainable business model for professionally-run E2E encrypted communication platforms. (5/13)

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    3. Alex Stamos‏Verified account @alexstamos Sep 26

      On #1, that means not only pushing back on legislation but accepting the inevitable downsides of giving people unfettered communications. @Alexismadrigal posted a good piece on this yesterday: (6/13)https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/09/whatsapp/571276/ …

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    4. Alex Stamos‏Verified account @alexstamos Sep 26

      On #2, there are two networks that currently fit the bill: iMessage and WhatsApp. All due respect to the great work of @moxie and team, but @signalapp (which I use) is unlikely to hit 1B users. Funny enough it is also subsidized, indirectly, by FB ads. (7/13)

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    5. Alex Stamos‏Verified account @alexstamos Sep 26

      iMessage has a sustainable business model: it is only available on phones that you buy from Apple for $449 to $1449. For reference, Reliance sells an Android phone in India for ~$50. A South African company is looking to hit $30. (8/13)

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    6. Alex Stamos‏Verified account @alexstamos Sep 26

      I think it is easy to underestimate how radical WhatsApp’s decision to deploy E2E was. Acton and Koum, with Zuck’s blessing, jumped off a bridge with the goal of building a monetization parachute on the way down. (9/13)

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    7. Alex Stamos‏Verified account @alexstamos Sep 26

      FB has a lot of money, so it was a very tall bridge, but it is foolish to expect that FB shareholders are going to subsidize a free text/voice/video global communications network forever. Eventually, WhatsApp is going to need to generate revenue. (10/13)

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    8. Alex Stamos‏Verified account @alexstamos Sep 26

      This could come from directly charging for the service, it could come from advertising, it could come from a WeChat-like services play. The first is very hard across countries, the latter two are complicated by E2E. (11/13)

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    9. Alex Stamos‏Verified account @alexstamos Sep 26

      I can’t speak to the various options that have been floated around, or the arguments between WA and FB, but those of us who care about privacy shouldn’t see WhatsApp monetization as something evil. (12/13)

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    10. Alex Stamos‏Verified account @alexstamos Sep 26

      In fact, we should want WA to demonstrate that E2E and revenue are compatible. That’s the only way E2E will become a sustainable feature of massive, non-niche technology platforms. (13/13)

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      Brian Smith‏ @BRIAN_____ Sep 26
      Replying to @alexstamos

      Couldn't E2E messaging be a loss-leader table-stakes feature of a bigger platform? Do stickers and other premium message content not generate enough revenue? Maybe fremium QoS (latency, delivery guarantees) and/or ToS (free is 1-user non-business use only) is monetizable enough.

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        1. Vladimir Ivanov‏ @ivladdalvi Sep 26
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          How are you going to complete with WA, TG, WC when they’re free? Not sure, if business version of Threema is very successful.

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