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Code farmer. Security, crypto, performance, networking, usability. Rust, C++, C, Haskell, DSLs, etc. *ring*, webpki, crypto-bench, mozilla::pkix.

Honolulu & San Francisco
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    1. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei Jun 16

      Those of you who’ve done both: what do you like about statically typed languages (vs. dynamic)?

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    2. eliza does nothing unless polled‏ @mycoliza Jun 16
      Replying to @sarahmei

      - no type errors at runtime - no type errors at runtime - no type errors at runtime - no type errors at runtime - no type errors at runtime - no type errors at runtime - no type errors at runtime - no type errors at runtime - no type errors at runtime - no type errors at runtime

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      Brian Smith‏ @BRIAN_____ Jun 16
      Replying to @mycoliza @benj_fry @sarahmei

      "No type errors" is a bit of an exaggeration since no static type system can encode all interesting information about all types yet. E.g. "odd u32" in Rust or "Prime Nat" in a dependently-typed language.

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        2. eliza does nothing unless polled‏ @mycoliza Jun 16
          Replying to @BRIAN_____ @benj_fry @sarahmei

          this is fair; "no fundamental mismatches between broad data types" just doesn't sound as good though

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        3. eliza does nothing unless polled‏ @mycoliza Jun 16
          Replying to @mycoliza @BRIAN_____ and

          I suppose this is also not completely true, depending on how strict the statically-typed typed language is, but I wasn't really thinking of C when I wrote this

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        4. Brian Smith‏ @BRIAN_____ Jun 16
          Replying to @mycoliza @benj_fry @sarahmei

          IMO it's important to free ourselves from false dichotomies like "static vs dynamic" or "obsolete vs. dependent" type systems. One can write C code in a way that's much more like Rust than what's typical, for example. A of what people think of as C isn't actually legal C anyway.

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        5. Brian Smith‏ @BRIAN_____ Jun 16
          Replying to @BRIAN_____ @mycoliza and

          There are some kinds of programs I prefer to write in Python and I don't think they'd be better in Haskell or Rust, especially considering development time. (People have made more money porting my Haskell code to Python than I made writing the original Haskell code.)

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        6. eliza does nothing unless polled‏ @mycoliza Jun 16
          Replying to @BRIAN_____ @benj_fry @sarahmei

          I don't disagree; for example, I don't think I'd like writing statically-typed shell scripts very much. That said, the question was "what do you like about statically-typed languages?", not "why are static types always unilaterallu superior?" 🙂

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        7. Benjamin Fry  🐞 🔫 🦀= ⚙️‏ @benj_fry Jun 16
          Replying to @mycoliza @BRIAN_____ @sarahmei

          Here’s my basic issue: Python, Ruby and JS are often picked at the beginning of a project’s life, but the first time there needs to be a major refactor, there is a HUGE amount of uncertainty due to the lack of type checking.

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        8. Benjamin Fry  🐞 🔫 🦀= ⚙️‏ @benj_fry Jun 16
          Replying to @benj_fry @mycoliza and

          Bash is great so long as it’s essentially a list of tasks, and not much more complexity that if statements to disable one part or enable something else.

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        9. Benjamin Fry  🐞 🔫 🦀= ⚙️‏ @benj_fry Jun 16
          Replying to @benj_fry @mycoliza and

          To me the question is this: are you building something to last (ie it needs to be hardened and have the code paths verified) or are you building something that’s throwaway? Many think they’re building something that’s throwaway, and then a billion $ company is built around crap.

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