stupid it had to go that far. It's their shop they should be allowed to bake whatever cake they want. They shouldn't be forced to do something that goes against their own values.
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Businesses are not legally allowed to discriminate
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They didn't refuse to serve gay customers, that would indeed be discrimination. They refused to put a message on a cake they disagreed with - I'm amazed I have to say this, but discrimination rules don't cover writing messages on cakes.
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They refused to make a cake because it supported gay rights, gay rights are covered by the equalities act so it's a protected class, thus refusing to serve based on disagreement with a protected class is discrimination. Google the equalities act 2010 yo.
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A cake doesn’t have rights. Mr Lee was not discriminated against on account of his sexuality (nor should he be), as laid out in the ruling
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I love how we have hit a point of national stupidity where we have to start arguments with 'a cake doesn't have rights'!
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This is setting a terrible precedent. Further discrimination will happen now.
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Private business have the right to choose who they do or do not do business with. If the business that is requested goes against their beliefs they are in their rights to refuse it. Would you kick up a fuss if a Muslim cafe didn't make you a bacon roll?
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A "Muslim cafe" wouldn't have bacon on the menu. No one was asking for a service they don't already provide so the comparison is just wrong.
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Their service obviously does not include gay cakes. Cant have freedom only when it suits you.
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Except there was no signage to indicate such, and they did initially accept the order, it was only one of the higher ups in the office that took issue with it, not those actually making it. So try again, eh?
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If I own a cake shop, do I need to have a sign outside listing all the types of cakes that I am not prepared to make? You live in la-la land. You leftists do not like it when freedom of speech, association, etc goes against what you like huh. Too bad.
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I don’t see any difference between discriminating against gays here and say, discriminating against blacks. What if they didn’t want to make a cake for black people?
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Because there was no discrimination against. The issue was the content of the message on the cake not the person ordering it.
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But the message linked directly to the person ordering it. It was an LGBT message of love and acceptance and equality...therefore it IS discrimination!
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Don’t understand the point you’re making. So it would have been fine to reject it if a heterosexual person ordered it but not a homosexual?
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Common sense prevails!
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Do me a favor, Jonah, define common sense for me.
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Quite simply. Nobody should have to do something that goes against their beliefs, religious or not.
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If the couple believe black people are evil and didn’t want to make a cake for them, should that belief be respected too? Genuine question with respect.
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So, the argument of this case was whether the bakery discriminated against the man or the message. So, in answer to your question, no.
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