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    Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred May 11

    Dropbox is now valued at $12.2B. Two months ago it was valued at $9B. Almost nothing has changed. Valuation is a crappy metric for startups.

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      2. Bryan Beal  🎧‏ @bryanrbeal May 11
        Replying to @AustenAllred @ayirpelle

        One major thing changed - liquidity. It’s value is now set by millions of investors instead of a handful of VCs. Public valuation and acquisition valuation are the only valuations that matter

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      3. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred May 11
        Replying to @bryanrbeal @ayirpelle

        Both were public valuations

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      4. Bryan Beal  🎧‏ @bryanrbeal May 11
        Replying to @AustenAllred @ayirpelle

        Sorry I misunderstood. I thought you were referring to their swing in valuation right before they went public.

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      1. Bryan Beal  🎧‏ @bryanrbeal May 11
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        Also, dropbox isn’t a start up. I can’t classify companies that are over 10 years old as still being start ups, even if they are private. You’re just another private companies if you’re that old.

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      2. Fares Ghandour‏ @toosketch May 12
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        a whole lot changed. Accountability, transparency, liquidity, the ability for institutional investors to take over and control, publicity of strategy, etc... you assume valuation is an inner reflection, while its usually almost entirely contextual

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      1. Michael McCormick‏ @MikeMcCormick_ May 11
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        It’s almost as if the market is ... subjective 😏

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      1. Tayyab Hussain‏ @ItsTayyab May 12
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        This is exactly why The Intelligent Investor by Ben Graham was written. True value is in the details :)

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      1. Jonathan Groves‏ @grovesprof May 12
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        It’s because Michael Avenatti released his info via Dropbox.

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      1. Daniel Francis‏ @polite_netizen May 11
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        wrong, I opened an account

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      1. Brady Lester‏ @blester_MS May 11
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        You might want to listen to their earnings call.

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      1. Market Death Spiral‏ @sspencer_smb May 11
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        Didn't they just report better than expected earnings? Also, public market valuation is a lot more instructive than private.

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      1. Dumbfook‏ @dumbfook May 11
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        Undervalued privately, more capital in public markets

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      1. Justin Bowler‏ @jb_ertw May 12
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        Valuation is an okay metric if you are the founder and your goal is getting rich. But as a measure of a business -- yeah, it is fairly meaningless. Also, Dropbox is 10 years old. I do that think we can still call it a startup.

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      1. Adam‏ @adam_miami May 12
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        It’s a liquidity premium. Liquidity means everything- company worth 33% more because investors can move in or out at will.

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      1. Paul van Oss‏ @paulvanoss May 12
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        I changed. I'm a paying customer. And with that my whole world has changed. No hard disks, backups. Availability. No limit. Connected to whatever. Who talks about money, I'm taking about value.

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      1. J. Bob O'Malley‏ @jimomal77 May 12
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        The could sell the upside and BUY $Box.😎

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      1. Cruce †‏ @ememesi May 12
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        I don't think the start ups will be complaining. As long as the figures are rising.

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      1. Vangeli Gelekas‏ @netgenius May 12
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        They better find something else to invest in soon. #blockbuster

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      1. Simon Dell‏ @IAmSimonDell May 12
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        Would you really still consider Dropbox a startup?

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