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    Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Apr 19

    Message I got a couple days ago: “Hey Austen, I have three companies wanting to interview me in New York; I arranged them so they’re back to back, I’m just trying to scrape the funds together to buy a flight and hotel...” People that are new to tech aren’t used to comped travel

    8:57 AM - 19 Apr 2018
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      2. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Apr 19

        Just another of the 1,000 examples of things that unintentionally hold back underrepresented communities from the tech jobs they’re just as qualified for

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      3. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Apr 19

        There’s no malintent here, just one of the many assumptions that comes from hiring folks already embedded in the same social class

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      2. Neoliberal  🦃‏ @ne0liberal Apr 19
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        Did they comp his travel?

        1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
      3. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Apr 19
        Replying to @ne0liberal

        All three companies were willing to comp his travel, but none explicitly said that, they just assumed he would assume that was the case. So he stresses out for a week trying to scrape together funds to buy a flight he doesn’t actually need to buy.

        8 replies 12 retweets 231 likes
      4. Neoliberal  🦃‏ @ne0liberal Apr 19
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        I will say, companies that don't explicitly state that they will comp travel for interviews are the worst. Making the candidate take the initiative to request reimbursement is awkward for everyone. Glad it worked out for him in the end.

        4 replies 9 retweets 201 likes
      5. Youssef Sarhan‏Verified account @YS Apr 19
        Replying to @ne0liberal @AustenAllred

        Yup and companies that try make it seem like they’ll “make an exception”, which is BS given that it’s part of the cost of hiring. A red flag for me.

        0 replies 0 retweets 27 likes
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      2. Dom‏ @entendu Apr 19
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        Maybe “how tech interviews work” should be a part of CS education?

        7 replies 1 retweet 39 likes
      3. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Apr 19
        Replying to @entendu

        It is a part of ours. But not all companies comp travel

        1 reply 0 retweets 27 likes
      4. Andy Ingram  🌀‏ @andrewingram Apr 19
        Replying to @AustenAllred @entendu

        I’ve been in tech for over a decade and I’d only assume travel is comped for the biggest companies, anyone else and I’d expect it to be explicit

        2 replies 0 retweets 16 likes
      5. Fredrich Maney‏ @fredrichmaney Apr 19
        Replying to @andrewingram @AustenAllred @entendu

        It should always be explicit, either way.

        1 reply 0 retweets 44 likes
      6. 𝕹𝖆𝖞𝖆𝖓 𝕽𝖆𝖒𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖆𝖓𝖉𝖗𝖆𝖓 🌯‏ @thetrin Apr 20
        Replying to @fredrichmaney @andrewingram and

        I've never in my life applied for a company in any field that comps travel. This is news to me.

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      7. Fredrich Maney‏ @fredrichmaney Apr 21
        Replying to @thetrin @andrewingram and

        It seems to be a cultural thing - in both the industry and location senses. That is part of the problem, if you aren't already in those cultures you don't know about it. Hence my statement that it should always be explicit.

        0 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
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      2. Colin Johnson‏ @colinbjohnson Apr 20
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        Could you, theoretically, submit the same receipts to all companies? I believe the "right" thing to do is to have them all pay a third (if you believe/desire comped travel)...

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. KumpkinBpiceTibbSeason‏ @KBTibbs Apr 20
        Replying to @colinbjohnson @AustenAllred

        it's a mistake to tell a prospective employer that you're interviewing other places and where. They'll assume, sure, but to volunteer that? Uph.

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      4. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Apr 20
        Replying to @KBTibbs @colinbjohnson

        Eh I think it’s a good thing that they know yourenin high demand

        2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
      5. Frank Escaros-Büchsel‏ @fbuechsel Apr 21
        Replying to @AustenAllred @KBTibbs @colinbjohnson

        Depends on how many other available candidates are on the market for them though :)

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 Apr 19
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        Also worth noting that most assume the candidate trivially has a payment method which works and wouldn't be materially inconvenienced by spotting the company $1~2k for an indefinite period that the company would estimate as 1~3 weeks (if they were asked to estimate).

        5 replies 9 retweets 164 likes
      3. Danny Lynch‏ @ernmando Apr 19
        Replying to @patio11 @AustenAllred

        Blizzard did something I liked here, they sent a prepaid Visa card for meals etc per diem (and paid for Hotel/fight directly)

        1 reply 1 retweet 74 likes
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      2. kamilah taylor  ⚡️‏ @kamilah Apr 19
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        Often even if they comp your travel it’s at the reimbursement stage - I had to borrow the money for flights when I was first interviewing for software engineer positions.

        1 reply 0 retweets 35 likes
      3. A Non Sanghi ?‏ @AnonDesi Apr 19
        Replying to @kamilah @AustenAllred

        And it just adds more misery to recent immigrants who often may not have access to credit.

        0 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
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