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CEO @LambdaSchool (YC S17): A CS education that's free until you get a job. I have made remarks that I do not agree with.

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    1. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Mar 24

      Imagine 100 randomly selected people. 50 are put in a University Shakespeare class. Attendance marked, reading assigned, reports written, grades given. The other 50 were given the same amount of time to explore Shakespeare on their own. Who do you honestly think learns more?

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    2. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Mar 24

      So what is making the student successful in the University? Everyone says, "The content! The professor!" Take that same content, deliver it to the 50 self-studiers in the form of a MOOC. Some will succeed. On average, however, performance of a class will *destroy* self-learners

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      Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Mar 24

      So what if, and hear me out on this, the most important aspect of an education for the majority of people isn't actually the *content* itself (though that certainly matters), but scheduling, artificial discipline, making up for where the average human is broken and/or lazy?

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        1. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Mar 24

          If that's the case, it means two things: 1. By learning self discipline and finding the right content you can free yourself from the need of an expensive classroom 2. Self-learning being available will be wildly helpful to a few people, but not very helpful to most

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        2. marko calvo-cruz‏ @CruzCalvo Mar 24
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          A large reason why classes work is because of social pressure, the motivation from being surrounded by peers who are going through roughly the same journey as you are is incredibly powerful. Would you agree?

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        3. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Mar 24
          Replying to @CruzCalvo

          1000%

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        4. marko calvo-cruz‏ @CruzCalvo Mar 24
          Replying to @AustenAllred

          I'm not sure "the average person" exists. I think every person needs to be thought of as weird because every person is weird and a system that is designed for the "avg person" is devising an attempt to make us square pegs fit into its round holes.

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        5. marko calvo-cruz‏ @CruzCalvo Mar 24
          Replying to @CruzCalvo @AustenAllred

          As far as Shakespeare goes, in the long-term I think the second unstructured group would learn more. I'm not so sure I still even remember most of the books I was assigned in lit classes. Except I do remember more vividly books I was able to pick myself.

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        6. marko calvo-cruz‏ @CruzCalvo Mar 24
          Replying to @CruzCalvo @AustenAllred

          Now maybe that wasn't a great student, but if that ought to disqualify me from reaping the same benefits from my schooling process as my classmates, then school is *de facto* a competition to be the most average

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        7. marko calvo-cruz‏ @CruzCalvo Mar 24
          Replying to @CruzCalvo @AustenAllred

          Now maybe that's because I wasn't a great student* -- And even though I think the 2nd group would learn more unstructured. I think the people in the first classroom group be better groomed to match society's expectations of youth by the end. (punctual, follows directions, etc)

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        8. marko calvo-cruz‏ @CruzCalvo Mar 24
          Replying to @CruzCalvo @AustenAllred

          This may be counter intuitive. Maybe we are mistaking the value of school for the wrong thing. Maybe schools are really good at producing people who seem smarter than they really are. Maybe marketing of school is so deeply engraved in our heads we form a natural bias for it. idk

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        9. marko calvo-cruz‏ @CruzCalvo Mar 24
          Replying to @CruzCalvo @AustenAllred

          I'm done.

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        1. shawn swyx wang  🌉‏ @swyx Mar 24
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          in my podcast ive asked 8 bootcamp graduates whether open sourcing the syllabus of the bootcamp would change their mind about taking the bootcamp. 8 out of 8 said no.

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        1. David Monson 孟海涛‏ @DMons_ Mar 24
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          It all comes down to WHY. When your WHY is strong enough, you begin to change anything and everything to accomplish your goal.

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        1. Gordon Mohr  👁 👁‏ @gojomo Mar 24
          Replying to @AustenAllred

          totally agree. I say as: what we call ‘education’ not just ‘instruction’ – it’s ‘instruction + motivation’; motivation remains bottleneck & still reqs artifice/peer-pressure/status-competition & other expensive/positional inputs no matter how cheap instruction can be made w/ tech

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        2. visakan veerasamy‏ @visakanv Mar 24
          Replying to @AustenAllred

          I have a lot of negative emotions associated with this sort of perspective. I find it to be cruel and dehumanizing. the idea that the average human is broken or lazy is, imo, determined/derived from a sort of capitalism-industrialization fetish. school as cog-regulation

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        3. visakan veerasamy‏ @visakanv Mar 24
          Replying to @visakanv @AustenAllred

          I feel that the experiment's flawed to begin with. Why are randomly people being forced to learn Shakespeare? Why should the selection be random? Randomly people put through Basic Training will also be more effective killers than self-learned militia. But why are we doing this?

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        4. Sanket Firodiya‏ @SanketFirodiya Mar 25
          Replying to @visakanv @AustenAllred

          +1

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        1. Jay Cross‏ @jaycrosstweets Mar 28
          Replying to @AustenAllred

          Does lack of interest in a curriculum chosen by complete strangers mean someone is broken and/or lazy? I guess sometimes it could. But I suspect many have strong natural interests in things outside the curriculum and can succeed in environments other than school.

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        2. MA Walker‏ @antiqueseahorse Mar 28
          Replying to @AustenAllred

          Per “ppl broken” frame: just noting everyone successfully self-learns on topics they find enjoyable, & struggles when it’s something they don’t enjoy. Just like exercise, eating habits etc - if it feels unrewarding, ppl quit even if they intellectually know it’s good for them.

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        3. MA Walker‏ @antiqueseahorse Mar 28
          Replying to @antiqueseahorse @AustenAllred

          Reminds me of Tiger Mom book: mom describes forcing her kids to take lessons they hated “because nobody likes something they suck at, so you have to get good first then decide if you want to stop.” There’ll likely always need to be some social forcing/encouragement in education.

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        1. We're A Culture Ship Not A Costume‏ @TristanSevers Mar 28
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          We're A Culture Ship Not A Costume Retweeted Ben Southwood

          I thought this for a long time but it probably doesn't do that either. At best, we have the pre-antibiotic medicine version of education.https://twitter.com/bswud/status/884430846312275973 …

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          Education didn't boost Prussian Growth during the second industrial revolution http://www.economics-ejournal.org/economics/discussionpapers/2017-30/file … pic.twitter.com/SHiXYzl1Ck
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        1. UX.pragmatist‏ @ClayNichols Mar 26
          Replying to @AustenAllred

          Have you talked to ppl who #Homeschool to see how they keep thier kids learning? They may have some techniques u can steal. Interesting convo at the very least.

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