3. Many academics believe you can’t learn online. Not that you can only learn a subset of things or that the learning is worse because it misses x y and z if not in person. They literally don’t believe it’s possible to have an effective online education.
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14. Universities and colleges that achieve accreditation (the kind that matters) are incredibly locked in as to what they teach, how long they teach it, and what requirements are
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15. Code bootcamps know they don’t prepare programmers very well for the job market, but they can’t lengthen their programs because then they’d have to increase the prices they charge accordingly, and the market disappears at 2x bootcamp prices
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16. There are many, many code bootcamps with <25% hiring rate that do millions of dollars per year in revenue by promising jobs
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17. People rely mainly on their parents for advice on what to do about education, and that has to be among the worst places to go for educational advice
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18. Economically we vastly undervalue education. A $10k swing in income when you’re 20 yrs old is actually worth $400k+ over your lifetime, but we’re (rightfully) skeptical of the returns
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19. We really have no way to measure how much universities help because there’s so much selection bias involved. E.g. what if you took all the people that got accepted to Stanford or Harvard and had them all go to the same community college? Or different schools? We don’t know.
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20. People who have never made upper middle class jobs are unused to working for people that want them to succeed
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21. Lack of access to a computer almost kept some of our best students from being able to attend. Those aren’t expensive.
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22. Bank accounts are surprisingly hard to get if you don’t have much money
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23. One of the biggest limiting factor in many Americans getting an education is geography. They don’t live near a college/university and making that move would be tremendously expensive relative to their incomes
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what are those 100% jobs?
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The one with the largest market is nursing. There’s about a 50% shortage in the US and hospitals are paying $40k recruiting bonuses. One of many examples.
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I agree with much of your tweetstorm, but the function of a well-working university is not as a career training center… though every school I’m aware of also offers a good measure of help for students looking for a first (or later) job, too. University is about learning to think
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Boot camps are fine if the only missing skill is “coding”. But computer science is also actually a science. Someone who doesn’t study the science as well as the practical skill can’t/shouldn’t move beyond junior or low senior engineer - there’s so much more than code.
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So if you want people to actually reach the “upper middle” tiers - they must understand that the coding classes are just the beginning of opening the door to a long education about lots of things not covered in coding classes...
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That’s why we created a computer science academy, not a bootcamp
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Please don’t diss universities - there’s more to life than one’s career - and IMO a big cause of SV’s failure to solve the world’s actual hard problems is the over-emphasis on making code, and so little understanding of the breadth of our humanity.
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In the BS programs I attended (Computer Science and Photojournalism majors, simultaneously) I learned to think about the world more fully. I wasn’t just "taught a trade.” That sort of experience - language and culture courses, even phys ed - helped me grow up.
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I know many people enrolled in degree programs at state schools and community colleges who know there are shorter paths to “jobs” but who are enriching themselves in many other essential ways - stuff they didn’t get growing up. These are not rich kids btw.
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Let’s say you grew up poor and blue collar, one parent who couldn’t always be there, unprivileged area (that’s most of the US btw)… college/university is one giant opportunity to learn how the world really works, cuz nobody back home taught you, because nobody back home knows.
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