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CEO @LambdaSchool (YC S17): A CS education that's free until you get a job. I have made remarks that I do not agree with.

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    1. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Feb 14

      A Debt-Free Alternative to Student Loans: Income-share agreements hold promise for students, investors and taxpayers. Congress should help them take root.https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-02-14/a-debt-free-alternative-to-student-loans …

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    2. Patrick Vlaskovits‏ @Pv Feb 14
      Replying to @AustenAllred

      Indentured servitude is probably worse than current effed up system.

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    3. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Feb 14
      Replying to @Pv

      An income share agreement is further from indentured servitude than debt is

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    4. Patrick Vlaskovits‏ @Pv Feb 14
      Replying to @AustenAllred

      How so?

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    5. Ryan Lowe‏ @phyter_tek Feb 14
      Replying to @Pv @AustenAllred

      If your income is below a set threshold, your payments pause. If your income remains below that threshold for a certain amount of time the agreement is voided. All forms of debt can be considered indentured servitude since you must work to pay said debt.

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    6. Ryan Lowe‏ @phyter_tek Feb 14
      Replying to @phyter_tek @Pv @AustenAllred

      Income shares are at least aligned incentivewise to the debtors, debtees HAVE to provide enough value to them to ensure they are paid

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    7. Ryan Lowe‏ @phyter_tek Feb 14
      Replying to @phyter_tek @Pv @AustenAllred

      I'm not aware of any other type of debt that has this type of value alignment

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      Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Feb 14
      Replying to @phyter_tek @Pv

      For example, you only pay on Lambda School’s income share agreement if your income is $50k+. No interest. If you lose a job your payments stop instead of default. No job? Disappears in 5 yrs. Capped at a maximum you could possibly owe. Better than a loan in every way.

      5:07 PM - 14 Feb 2018
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        2. Patrick Vlaskovits‏ @Pv Feb 14
          Replying to @AustenAllred @phyter_tek

          Can an income share obligation rendered moot in bankruptcy court?

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        3. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Feb 14
          Replying to @Pv @phyter_tek

          Yes

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        4. Patrick Vlaskovits‏ @Pv Feb 14
          Replying to @AustenAllred @phyter_tek

          What's individual's tax treatment on payments to income share obligation?

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        5. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Feb 14
          Replying to @Pv @phyter_tek

          What do you mean? Taxed the same way as anything else would be

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        6. Patrick Vlaskovits‏ @Pv Feb 14
          Replying to @AustenAllred @phyter_tek

          Rephrasing, income share payments cannot be deducted on taxes, can they?

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        7. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Feb 14
          Replying to @Pv @phyter_tek

          No, but neither can loans

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        8. Patrick Vlaskovits‏ @Pv Feb 14
          Replying to @AustenAllred @phyter_tek

          One can, indeed, deduct interest on student loan payments. Albeit amount is capped and subject to income limits too.

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        9. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Feb 14
          Replying to @Pv @phyter_tek

          You can deduct interest, not payments to principal. ISAs don’t have interest, which is an enormous benefit

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