“College isn’t about getting a job” is the perfect angle. It turns college into something so esoteric its success is impossible to measure, and therefore it’s impossible to fail.
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Replying to @AustenAllred
Would you still think of college without getting a job as a failure if it was free?
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Replying to @film42 @AustenAllred
Depends. But even if it were still valuable today, removing the only other thing a univ is accountable for (tuition) just makes them that much less likely to remain useful for anything over time. OPM is rarely ever spent well, esp over the long term.
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Replying to @michael_zaro @AustenAllred
Someone else pointed out there’s more to college than education: networking, making friends, sometimes finding spouses. Is the bad taste because we need to pay for it? If everything was the same, only tuition was free, would it be it still be a failure without a job after?
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Yes. Not a failure to the student but a failure to society. A massive "networking, making friends, sometimes finding spouses" program paid for by taxpayers?
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Exactly. Reducing the cost doesn't increase the actual value of the good/service, it just changes your threshold for when you are willing to buy/consume it. Making college "free" to the attendee doesn't make it more useful to them, it just makes it easy to show up.
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Eh IMO what makes college awful is when it doesn't work out. I think being free absolutely changes the value prop. Four years discovering yourself and meeting people with some learning isn't too bad. Four years spending $200k and being promised a career that doesn't pan out is.
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Free is better for the individual, but since society/taxpayers are the ones footing the bill, the decision should be whether we as a country want to cover the costs for most/all people to spend 4 years discovering themselves. And is that the best way to do it?
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Ya I don’t think any rational person would argue that the ideal solution is to have the taxpayer pay $40k/semester for ITT Tech (or even a top school)
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