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CEO @LambdaSchool (YC S17): A CS education that's free until you get a job. I have made remarks that I do not agree with.

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    1. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Feb 1

      “College isn’t about getting a job” is the perfect angle. It turns college into something so esoteric its success is impossible to measure, and therefore it’s impossible to fail.

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    2. Garrett‏ @film42 Feb 2
      Replying to @AustenAllred

      Would you still think of college without getting a job as a failure if it was free?

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Michael Zaro‏ @michael_zaro Feb 2
      Replying to @film42 @AustenAllred

      Depends. But even if it were still valuable today, removing the only other thing a univ is accountable for (tuition) just makes them that much less likely to remain useful for anything over time. OPM is rarely ever spent well, esp over the long term.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Garrett‏ @film42 Feb 2
      Replying to @michael_zaro @AustenAllred

      Someone else pointed out there’s more to college than education: networking, making friends, sometimes finding spouses. Is the bad taste because we need to pay for it? If everything was the same, only tuition was free, would it be it still be a failure without a job after?

      4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Michael Zaro‏ @michael_zaro Feb 2
      Replying to @film42 @AustenAllred

      Consider the pitch for a "university experience" where the main value of attendance was, "you'll make friends and maybe find a spouse." Is that worth 4 years/$40k+? Does the fact that it's paid for by the general taxpayers instead of directly by you make it any more valuable?

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    6. Garrett‏ @film42 Feb 2
      Replying to @michael_zaro @AustenAllred

      Not trying to make a case for free university. Just a thought experiment. Wondering where the “university is broken” pain comes from. I didn’t love college but would do it all over again in a heartbeat. And college didn’t get me a job. Networking myself did.

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    7. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Feb 2
      Replying to @film42 @michael_zaro

      "university is broken" pain comes when people go to college assuming it will get them a job, rack up $200k in debt, and it doesn't work out. You're effectively financially ruined for life.

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      Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Feb 2
      Replying to @AustenAllred @film42 @michael_zaro

      For someone like you, you studied CS (great field), probably didn't have much/any debt, went to a cheap/solid school, had valuable skills and a good time. Hard to argue against that.

      8:18 AM - 2 Feb 2018
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        2. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Feb 2
          Replying to @AustenAllred @film42 @michael_zaro

          The hard thing about valuing a university is it's this huge bundle of 80 things all together that are worth different amounts to different people

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Michael Zaro‏ @michael_zaro Feb 2
          Replying to @AustenAllred @film42

          True. In some ways it kinda feels like bloated software. It works well enough that you buy the whole thing, but you really only need a few specific parts of it.

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        4. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Feb 2
          Replying to @michael_zaro @film42

          I just signed a contract for Salesforce so I get it :)

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