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    Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred 16 Nov 2017

    Serious question: If I wanted to buy 10% of your income for the next 10 years (let's assume this was possible pre-tax), how much would you charge me in up-front cash for that?

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      1. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred 16 Nov 2017

        So if I wanted to write you a check today in exchange for you giving me 10% of your income for 10 yrs, how much would that check have to be for you to do the deal?

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      2. Al Doan‏ @drbillnye 16 Nov 2017
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        This is interesting, if I was in college and I just graduated, if you gave me 50k so I could take 2 years to adventure, I’d give you 10% for 10 years I think.

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      3. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred 16 Nov 2017
        Replying to @drbillnye

        Ummm can I retroactively give you 50k?

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      4. Al Doan‏ @drbillnye 16 Nov 2017
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        Just did the math, based on my annual salaries each year, I would have paid you 180k, so 3.5x but I could have travelled and worked for free for longer and built cool stuff, I wouldn't even be mad

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      5. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred 16 Nov 2017
        Replying to @drbillnye

        OK let's do 20% for 20 yrs :)

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      6. Al Doan‏ @drbillnye 16 Nov 2017
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        you weren't planning on me making less than 7k annually for 5 years were you! #longcon #committed

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      7. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred 16 Nov 2017
        Replying to @drbillnye

        Not sure where the right inflection point is, but man I want to be right on the other side

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      2. Brady Lester‏ @blester_MS 16 Nov 2017
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        I would charge you the total plus 2.5% cost of capital paid semi-annually.

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      3. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred 16 Nov 2017
        Replying to @blester_MS

        What is the total? Just your current income * 10?

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      4. Brady Lester‏ @blester_MS 16 Nov 2017
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        Yes. However I’m assuming your question has relevance to @LambdaSchool and the 10% would come from my income on an annual basis correct?

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      5. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred 16 Nov 2017
        Replying to @blester_MS @LambdaSchool

        Only vaguely related

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      6. Brady Lester‏ @blester_MS 16 Nov 2017
        Replying to @AustenAllred @LambdaSchool

        If you wanted 10% of my income for the next 10 years up front, I would charge you 2.5% maybe 3% interest for cost of capital semi-annually then expect the principal at the end. I would stay that low on the interest because I am protected if my income increases.

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      7. Brady Lester‏ @blester_MS 16 Nov 2017
        Replying to @blester_MS @AustenAllred @LambdaSchool

        No one would charge an upfront amount to borrow 10% of their income times 10. You are open to inflationary risks taking an upfront payment.

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      8. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred 16 Nov 2017
        Replying to @blester_MS @LambdaSchool

        So basically you'd take the bet that your salary isn't going to increase much

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      9. Brady Lester‏ @blester_MS 16 Nov 2017
        Replying to @AustenAllred @LambdaSchool

        The opposite. I know my salary will increase over 10 years so I would rather give you all 10% up front not over 10 years. That protects any wage increases I receive from you, the borrower.

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      2. Chadd Carr, PhD‏ @chadd_carr 16 Nov 2017
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        The “answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything,” ... is 42.

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      3. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred 16 Nov 2017
        Replying to @chadd_carr

        $42 on the way

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      2. Jacqui Macalister‏ @JacquiMac 16 Nov 2017
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        Just the total - I invest it and take the interest. Interesting idea as the logic of the financial system now is exactly the opposite. I.e. I pay for the advance loan.

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      3. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred 16 Nov 2017
        Replying to @JacquiMac

        The total of what? Your income * 10?

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      4. Jacqui Macalister‏ @JacquiMac 16 Nov 2017
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        10 x 10% up front

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