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CEO @LambdaSchool (YC S17): A CS education that's free until you get a job. I have made remarks that I do not agree with.

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    Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Oct 16

    Looks like Lambda School will be ready to roll out in the UK and EU on January 1, 2019. And yes, the model will still work. No cost until you’re hired.

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      1. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Oct 16

        We’ll start with a 30 week full-stack web development + computer science course. JavaScript/React/Node/SQL, Python/Django, C. Computer science including deep dives into data structures, algorithms, operating systems, architecture. Curriculum: https://learn.lambdaschool.com/syllabus/cs-fsw 

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      2. Jeremy Howard‏ @jeremyphoward Oct 17
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        Hey Austen I'm sitting in the lobby at @holbertonschool right now about to learn more about them. What are the similarities and differences to your approach? (sorry for my ignorance!)

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      3. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Oct 17
        Replying to @jeremyphoward @holbertonschool

        Similarities: income share agreement, try to be much deeper than a “bootcamp,” live and interactive Differences: Holberton is ~2 yrs, in person, entirely peer learning, different rates, Lambda is entirely online, instructor-driven

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      4. Jeremy Howard‏ @jeremyphoward Oct 17
        Replying to @AustenAllred @holbertonschool

        Thanks for the great summary. Seems like online peer learning might be the most scalable option (i.e a bit of both)? Or do you find instructors really important in the online version?

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      5. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Oct 17
        Replying to @jeremyphoward @holbertonschool

        Personal belief, but students learn much, much faster with a full-time instructor, and the greatest cost is time and staying alive/paying bills. We do peer instruction as well but would never go without instructors

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      6. Jeremy Howard‏ @jeremyphoward Oct 17
        Replying to @AustenAllred @holbertonschool

        Sounds like a really interesting comparison. Might be hard to get solid data about it - I can certainly see arguments for both.

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      2. Kamuela Franco‏ @Kamuela Oct 17
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        By the way, will we still have the option to take the course from the PST-based team? The time slot works much much better for me

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      3. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Oct 17
        Replying to @Kamuela

        Yes

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      4. Kamuela Franco‏ @Kamuela Oct 17
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        Is the January 1st timeframe specifically for European time-zone classes, or is that also when the contracts for $0 upfront would legally be available? Would love to get myself to hustle and start in the next cohort if it’s just the former!!!!!

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      5. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Oct 17
        Replying to @Kamuela

        It should all be available at once

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      2. Ihar Hrachyshka‏ @ihrachyshka Oct 17
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        So, US citizens in USA and UK/EU citizens in UK/EU will have an option with no upfront payments; but foreigners living in US with visas / green cards in progress are asked to pay 100% upfront. It could at least be e.g. 50%; otherwise no skin in the game, and huge hit on students.

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      3. Jon Ross‏ @jonnypower236 Oct 17
        Replying to @ihrachyshka @AustenAllred

        The problem with ISAs is that they need access to your income statements. Since US students file taxes every year, then their income is verifiable and Lambda gets paid per the agreement. US permanent residents are also able to get deferred tuition, but that’s the main issue.

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      4. Ihar Hrachyshka‏ @ihrachyshka Oct 17
        Replying to @jonnypower236 @AustenAllred

        Foreigners in the country pay taxes exactly the same way as everyone else.

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      5. Jon Ross‏ @jonnypower236 Oct 17
        Replying to @ihrachyshka @AustenAllred

        Right, and I didn’t mean to insinuate otherwise. It might depend on Lambda’s ISA provider, Leif, and their eligibility requirements for an ISA. I don’t know why they have such a restriction for US citizenship/permanent residence, but I feel like that would be the main culprit.

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      6. Ihar Hrachyshka‏ @ihrachyshka Oct 17
        Replying to @jonnypower236 @AustenAllred

        I don't mean to disparage their choice, it's their business. Just puzzled that their supposed advantage - proven skin in the game - flies out the window in this case. I would at least expect some form of installment plan to alleviate financial hit from upfront payment.

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      7. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Oct 17
        Replying to @ihrachyshka @jonnypower236

        It’s legality - not our choice

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      8. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Oct 17
        Replying to @AustenAllred @ihrachyshka @jonnypower236

        If you want an installment plan or to pay 50% upfront we can work that out

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      9. Ihar Hrachyshka‏ @ihrachyshka Oct 17
        Replying to @AustenAllred @jonnypower236

        OK, though my wife gets very different signals from your comms (being told 100% upfront is the only option). I will refer her to this thread; I hope you indeed will be able to work something out. Thanks for reply.

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      2. Shaheeda Abdul Kader‏ @saq3 Oct 16
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        Austen, is there anyway small 🐠 like me could invest in @lambdaschool in the next round?

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      3. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Oct 16
        Replying to @saq3 @LambdaSchool

        Honestly probably not lol, sorry. Will let you know!

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