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CEO @LambdaSchool (YC S17): A CS education that's free until you get a job. I have made remarks that I do not agree with.

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    1. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Sep 12

      Experiments running concurrently at Lambda School: 1. An iOS house paid for by Lambda in the heart of San Francisco 2. $1,000/mo living stipend for iOS students 3. $1,000/mo living stipend for any track 4. House for women mobile devs in San Francisco 5. Should announce next week

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    2. Robert Kiraly‏ @BoldCoder Sep 12
      Replying to @AustenAllred

      Austen, have you considered doing something with the thousands of skilled U.S. coders who have decades of experience but are dealing with age discrimination and #H1B fraud? "We're really looking for somebody fresh out of school." It's illegal, but nobody enforces the law.

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    3. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Sep 12
      Replying to @BoldCoder

      What would you suggest we do? We had a 45 year old hired last week if that answers that question

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    4. Robert Kiraly‏ @BoldCoder Sep 12
      Replying to @AustenAllred

      1) A 45 year old, I gather, who came in as a novice and whose age wasn't known to the employer in advance. 2) But the invitation to comment is appreciated. Nothing negative was intended. It's just that... all this talk every day about new people... what about the experienced?

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      Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Sep 12
      Replying to @BoldCoder

      I’ve never met an experienced engineer who couldn’t find a job. Maybe I’m not looking hard enough.

      9:27 PM - 12 Sep 2018
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        2. Robert Kiraly‏ @BoldCoder Sep 12
          Replying to @AustenAllred

          No, you're not. I've met quite a few of them. One startup in S.F., same building as Twitter, offered me a job. There was no job. They set up a test that was actually a 3-day project to rework their core software for free. That is how it goes for old coders without connections.

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        3. Robert Kiraly‏ @BoldCoder Sep 12
          Replying to @BoldCoder @AustenAllred

          Some of the old coders are desperate. They don't understand what's happening or where to turn. They learn soon enough that they're expected literally to disappear. I'm not as naive and will survive. But there is an entire layer of the tech world that you don't know about.

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        4. marko calvo-cruz‏ @CruzCalvo Sep 13
          Replying to @BoldCoder @AustenAllred

          Makes me ask how these older coders perform on coding tests such as those on hackerrank or triplebyte. Are there not ways that their knowledge can speak for themselves?

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        5. Robert Kiraly‏ @BoldCoder Sep 13
          Replying to @CruzCalvo @AustenAllred

          Speaking for myself, one firm put me through a 2-hour test and said that I was rated at the top for "Just in Time Learning". That issue isn't the point. The point is that firms are allowed to say "We're looking for somebody fresh out of school" despite this being illegal.

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        6. Robert Kiraly‏ @BoldCoder Sep 13
          Replying to @BoldCoder @CruzCalvo @AustenAllred

          @CyberCoders does it differently. I f*cked their General Counsel Rebecca, BTW, and her replacement David. #CyberCoders says "We'd like people with 4 to 7 years of experience". If you say "What if I have more years?", their attorney threatens you and you must f*ck him or her.

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        7. Robert Kiraly‏ @BoldCoder Sep 13
          Replying to @BoldCoder @CruzCalvo and

          I'd like to be clear that I used to be quite frightened of the world. It had to do with abuse discussed on Haggis Hell. But fear and passivity were burned out of me in 2012. I remain kind. Austen has met me. He'd remember an older couple. I was trying to be supportive of them.

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        8. marko calvo-cruz‏ @CruzCalvo Sep 13
          Replying to @BoldCoder @AustenAllred @CyberCoders

          I hear what you're saying and feel for you. To me, it looks like our economy is in rapid transition & everybody is just trying to keep up. The 1st step to solving this is to understand it. It's important that people like you keep it in consciousness. Thank you for sharing.

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        9. Robert Kiraly‏ @BoldCoder Sep 13
          Replying to @CruzCalvo @AustenAllred @CyberCoders

          Your polite remarks are appreciated. Note that my remarks to Austen were polite as well. I felt that his wife or associate Dallen crossed a self-centered line and had no reservations about responding bluntly in that case. I usually assume good intentions. But there are limits.

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        2. Robert Kiraly‏ @BoldCoder Sep 12
          Replying to @AustenAllred

          @dallenallred has "liked" Austen's tweet. I'd like to know if he or she has heard the words: "We're looking for somebody fresh out of school." Or if Dallen has filed a complaint at the State level, as I have, and seen what the State does. No? Thank you, then, Mr./Ms. Clueless.

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        3. Robert Kiraly‏ @BoldCoder Sep 12
          Replying to @BoldCoder @AustenAllred @dallenallred

          Austen, if that's your wife, tell her that I have respect for you based on our meeting, but I owe her no respect that she doesn't earn and she's off to a poor start. BTW the student canceled his trip, but I'm up for another too-high calories meal.

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