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CEO @LambdaSchool (YC S17): A CS education that's free until you get a job. I have made remarks that I do not agree with.

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    Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Aug 30

    In coming weeks Lambda School will be moving away from interviews entirely, and toward something called, “tryouts.” Students trying out will be taught how to build cool stuff, and the people who do the best at building cool stuff and working with others will be accepted.

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      1. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Aug 30

        The reason being that the best indicator for being good at x is being good at x. The secondary reason being that now we don’t have to hire an army of interviewers for all the applications coming in.

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      2. Justin Noel‏ @calendee Aug 31
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        The underdog working at McDonalds 60 hours per week and dealing with their kids homework in the evenings is going to fare poorly against the person that stayed at their parents house for the prior 2 weeks teaching themselves enough about coding. They'll start off ahead.

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      3. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Aug 31
        Replying to @calendee

        It’s not time bound. They both will have to learn the prerequisite material one way or another.

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      2. j a s o n‏ @QC_Bounce Aug 30
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        Those who can already “do it,” do they need the school?

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      3. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Aug 30
        Replying to @QC_Bounce

        We teach it first. Read the tweet again.

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      2. Cristin Balog‏ @TechBalog Aug 31
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        I assume you will continue to make interviewing part of your curriculum, right? Obviously that is still a key life and professional skill to score a good job after graduating— the success metric for both @LambdaSchool and the student.

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      3. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Aug 31
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        Of course!

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      2. Wes Winham‏ @weswinham Aug 31
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        If you'd like to talk about rubrics, time boxes, information density, and other ways to maintain fidelity/consistency and fairness on those tryouts, we've been working on this problem for the last few years. Love your mission and happy to share what we've learned.

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      1. Alex Bowles‏ @alexqgb Aug 30
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        This sounds like going from strength to strength (in other news, it's so much fun watching this whole thing come to life)

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      1. Siddharth Srivastav‏ @sidvent Aug 30
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        Awesome. I guess this could be a much better proxy for intent and quality. Hard to fake unlike mere conversations.

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      1. Justin Noel‏ @calendee Aug 31
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        Please be careful when determining "the best".

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      1. Sambhav kumar‏ @Sambhav09282512 Aug 31
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      1. Kevin Curry‏ @kcurryl2g Aug 30
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        Good move!

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      1. Delysis‏ @delysis Aug 30
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        The education policy wonks I know are extremely cynical. This, by contrast, is very heartening. Big win for neurodiversity and real (consequentialist) meritocracy in your program. If only there was a way to package good pedegogy such that it wouldn’t trigger legacy educators...

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      1. Luke Shen‏ @thelukeshen Aug 30
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        Bravo 👏 I wish job interviews were more like this.

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      2. Jarrad (Moose) Lawrence‏ @JarradLawrence Aug 30
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        crosses fingers 🤞 for international students or different time zones.

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      3. Mitchell Wright‏ @mitchellbwright Aug 31
        Replying to @JarradLawrence @AustenAllred

        We'll be running sessions at multiple times throughout the day to accommodate different time zones and schedules.

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      2. Justin Noel‏ @calendee Aug 31
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        While they can be flawed and not scale well, interviews can give the disadvantaged a chance to prove themselves. An interviewer can get a gut feeling what an underdog can achieve and give them a chance. You've proven this works over and over.

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      3. Gin [#WeDontHaveTime]‏ @2ysur2ysub Aug 31
        Replying to @calendee @AustenAllred

        I’m with Justin. A combination would be good.

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      4. Mitchell Wright‏ @mitchellbwright Aug 31
        Replying to @2ysur2ysub @calendee @AustenAllred

        As we have been planning out this switch, we have cases where there will still be interviews. The idea is that any edge cases or students that might be on the bubble will still get an interview.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Gin [#WeDontHaveTime]‏ @2ysur2ysub Aug 31
        Replying to @mitchellbwright @calendee @AustenAllred

        Just know that navigating the White world is very intimidating for people of color. We are outsiders. Even as an attorney, it’s nerve wracking b/c of white supremacy. How will you judge them against the more confident?

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