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CEO @LambdaSchool (YC S17): A CS education that's free until you get a job. I have made remarks that I do not agree with.

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    Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Aug 5

    Austen Allred Retweeted Andrew Chen

    Here’s another one: it’s not only possible to work more than 8 productive hours per day, it’s imperative to do so in the early days of a startup. Related: People believe the reverse largely because it makes them feel better about themselves, not because it’s true.https://twitter.com/andrewchen/status/1025817195174080512 …

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    Andrew Chen @andrewchen
    What is your least popular but deeply held opinion on tech/startups?
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    12:45 PM - 5 Aug 2018
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    • Chad Grills David West Making money today Romil Tiwari David McDougall Greg Lang EMG Magic Startups  #Muccazino João Pinto michael litman
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      2. Matt Bee‏ @mattbee Aug 5
        Replying to @AustenAllred @dmitrigrabov

        This is bullshit. To me this says that a start up doesn't give a shit about family, hobbies, mental health. You can keep your start up job if that's the case. And shove it. Related: I work at one that basically enforces 7 hour days and we are doing very alright thank you.

        4 replies 0 retweets 22 likes
      3. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Aug 5
        Replying to @mattbee @dmitrigrabov

        Talking about founders, and your tone is insane for jumping into a “controversial belief” convo

        5 replies 1 retweet 50 likes
      4. Matt Bee‏ @mattbee Aug 5
        Replying to @AustenAllred @dmitrigrabov

        Sorry, as I said elsewhere, founders is a different matter and a choice - but context was lost as ever on twitter, I didn't see the original 'controversial belief's. I just want anyone reading it as I read it to recognise the alternative (and I believe true) reality of start ups.

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      1. Joe Bono‏ @JosephBono Aug 5
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        Here's another one: if burning out employees is Plan A for an endeavor, you're either not interested in the long term success of your company or you're a short sighted narcissist. Related: People believe the reverse largely because they lack empathy, not because others are weak

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      1. Peter van Sabben‏ @sabben Aug 5
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        + Bootstrapping is still underrated: Most Founders should bootstrap much longer and focus on being profitable. Learn about profit marges, forces you to listen better to customers, better for culture and better to create your own destiny.

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      2. Regina Clewlow  🚃 🛴 🚲‏ @ReginaClewlow Aug 5
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        I think many (usually young) startup founders do the reverse (more 80+ hours) because they typically have no domain experience and don’t understand their customer. It’s really just an inefficiency problem.

        1 reply 1 retweet 17 likes
      3. Wes Winham‏ @weswinham Aug 6
        Replying to @ReginaClewlow @AustenAllred

        They're trading in time to account for lack of expertise, right? Seems reasonable, since that time creates expertise. We don't have the option to be a better, more-experienced person :)

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      4. Chelsea Kent  👽‏ @clkent Sep 17
        Replying to @weswinham @ReginaClewlow @AustenAllred

        That is where co-founding with someone who is a domain expert is important or at least bringing them in as mentors/employees. There are far too many startups from founders that think they have a brilliant idea for an area they know little about... one reason most startups fail.

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      5. Wes Winham‏ @weswinham Sep 18
        Replying to @clkent @ReginaClewlow @AustenAllred

        Good advice is a must, absolutely! The number of domains one needs to be an expert in as a founding CEO is staggering. Personally, a lot my need-more-than-8-hours is spending time with those advisors so that I can see around corners and avoid major time-sucking mistakes.

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      2. {{user.first_name}}‏ @mnlfrgr Aug 5
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        I think you’re taking this one too personal :) The fact that you use the word “imperative” means that you don’t think this is your opinion anymore, but the Truth. Also, how exactly does thinking the reverse make me feel better??

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      3. Nathan Hopkins‏ @hopsoft Aug 5
        Replying to @mnlfrgr @AustenAllred

        On the contrary, I think the idea of overworking helps most founders “feel better” because they’re “grinding” & “ crushing it”.

        0 replies 1 retweet 11 likes
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      1. Danny Trinh‏Verified account @dtrinh Aug 5
        Replying to @AustenAllred @rrhoover

        Agree is possible/necessary but, with all due respect.. it requires great discipline to look after your health, hours of sleep, and regular recovery/breaks.

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      1.  ⚡️Andrew So ⚡️‏ @AndrewDixonSo Aug 5
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        worker burnout is the cost of SV's success. It wouldn't be the place it is without attracting thousands of bright young people willing to work 18 hr days

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      1. Ron Martínez‏ @ronmartinez Aug 5
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        I’ve found when you’re hot on the trail of something new that has you in its grip it’s hard to not “work”, even though you really should to maintain health and perspective.

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      1. Joshua Voydik‏ @joshvoydik Aug 5
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        I don’t think it’s as black and white as either option. Some days are more productive than others and you put less hours on the clock. There are other days where you must put in more than eight hours. The type of work may require such. We can all be more effective.

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      2. Leon Overweel‏ @layon_overwhale Aug 5
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        Have you ever tracked your time in detail? (Timers off for any breaks, no matter how small.) I’ve found that even when I worked from waking up to going to sleep, an 8-hour day was an outlier

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      3. Lukas Rosenstock‏ @LukasRosenstock Aug 6
        Replying to @layon_overwhale @AustenAllred

        Exactly, there's a huge difference between hours spent in the office and hours spent doing productive work. Things like pomodoro technique make it visible. Most people overestimate the hours they actually work.

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      2. David Taylor‏ @etherfuse Aug 5
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        There is actually a lot of studies that demonstrate that systematically requiring employees to work long hours gets you less productivity than just working 8. You can have sprints and get short gains but would need rest right after. If interested, I’d happily find the paper.

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      1. LightningSlow‏ @raver119 Aug 7
        Replying to @AustenAllred @agibsonccc

        Mind posting some proofs you’ve been working 10 hours a day for 3 years in a row? Working, not commuting around

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