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CEO @LambdaSchool (YC S17): A CS education that's free until you get a job. I have made remarks that I do not agree with.

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    Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Jul 30

    I want to create a massive internship program. Something like $15-20/hr for 3 months, you get a Lambda School grad to intern for you. If you like them you can bring them on FT at a full salary. Would you be interested in something like that?

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      2. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Jul 30

        You get a scrappy Lambda School student who has been slinging code for 7 months and is ready to ship more code for <$3k/month. They get the first 3 months of work experience in the bag.

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      3. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Jul 30

        I'm 100% serious, and I could have students ready to go tomorrow. email internships@lambdaschool.com and let me know what/who you're looking for, and we'll get you hooked up.

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      4. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Jul 30

        To be honest the price should probably be closer to $25/hr, I just want it to be a no-brainer for the employer

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      2. Brock Ellis‏ @TheBrockEllis Jul 30
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        <3 internships! However, apprenticeships are the most proven way to integrate skills workers into industry. See electricians, plumbers, etc. Been trying to push a city wide apprenticeship program in Omaha, NE for a few months now. Take a read!https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WGBw7RBnyCuQU5A9xq8VL1442HAPY7iI6RIa0WPEQUE/edit?usp=sharing …

        1 reply 1 retweet 11 likes
      3. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Jul 30
        Replying to @TheBrockEllis

        A lot of companies don’t even have a way to differentiate between the two now

        1 reply 1 retweet 9 likes
      4. Brock Ellis‏ @TheBrockEllis Jul 30
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        So true. Even an "apprenticeship" can devolve into a very poor internship. Even the most highly motivated student won't be successful (depending on definition) if the company doesn't have the ability/infrastructure to set them up for success. That's the problem I want to fix.

        1 reply 1 retweet 5 likes
      5. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Jul 30
        Replying to @TheBrockEllis

        What I'm saying is people in the US use "apprenticeship" and "internship" interchangeably

        1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
      6. Brock Ellis‏ @TheBrockEllis Jul 30
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        Agreed. Though they shouldn't. Both length of time and goal should be different, imho. Internship = shorter, lots of learning by osmosis. Apprenticeship = longer, coached, mentored. Apprenticeships should be seen as investment w/ ROI. You're right though, interchangeable atm.

        0 replies 1 retweet 7 likes
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      2. Matt Guttman‏ @mattguttmanorg Jul 30
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        I’m curious to see how your project scales as it gets farther from selling software grads to a highly networked and visible SF / SV market.

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      3. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Jul 30
        Replying to @mattguttmanorg

        The vast, vast majority of our students aren't in SF/SV

        1 reply 2 retweets 4 likes
      4. Matt Guttman‏ @mattguttmanorg Jul 30
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        I know. But they’re implicitly being marketed to a community that are mostly aware of you and your project as such. And they all benefit from the effects of that specificity and visibility.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Jul 30
        Replying to @mattguttmanorg

        Of the 50 or so students who have been hired so far I think one? works in the bay area, so I'm not sure that's true

        1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
      6. Matt Guttman‏ @mattguttmanorg Jul 30
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        I’m a big fan of your project. This isn’t a criticism. But you must understand my general point. You came out of YC, very visible, and very networked, in precisely the field where you’re placing. I’m not saying LS is doomed, but you have to admit you have a rolling start.

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      7. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Jul 30
        Replying to @mattguttmanorg

        For sure, but the vast majority of our employers never heard of us until a student applied, so I'm not sure how relevant it is

        1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
      8. Matt Guttman‏ @mattguttmanorg Jul 30
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        Huge, if true. I have been *assuming* that at least a moderate percentage of your placements came from network effects.

        0 replies 1 retweet 1 like
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      2. Ricardo Loya Jr‏ @rouardo Jul 30
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        I'm so intrigued to enroll in your school. It was my dream to work in the tech industry. You solve the reason why I dropped out. But the job I have now pays me so well and I'm already used to that pay... Any idea how long it could take to get to 6 figures? After graduation?

        2 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
      3. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Jul 30
        Replying to @rouardo

        Depends on a lot of things; on average probably 2-3 yrs?

        1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
      4. Ricardo Loya Jr‏ @rouardo Jul 30
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        Is their certain fields that get you to that figure faster you think? Like programming, networking? Or even with these jobs it still averages around 2 or 3 years?

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      5. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Jul 30
        Replying to @rouardo

        Pretty much anything in programming you'll get there if you hustle and/or are in a higher-paying city

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      6. Ricardo Loya Jr‏ @rouardo Jul 30
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        Well thanks for your time Austen. You're really making think about what I should pursue as a career!

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      7. Ethan Stillman‏ @estill01 Jul 30
        Replying to @rouardo @AustenAllred

        Take up AI engineering and you can pull $300k+. Definite learning curve to be good though not any more particularly difficult than traditional programming.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
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