I’d encourage you both to talk to our students or look at our reviews. We are literally seeing students lifted out of poverty, and have a nonprofit fund where we pay for living expenses. So forgive me for being defensivehttps://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2018/06/an-alternative-to-student-loan-debt/563093/ …
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Replying to @AustenAllred @marktnoonan and
Almost every day we get a job offer for someone who has never made more than $10-20k, and we’re spending millions of dollars training people for no upfront cost, knowing we’ll only get paid back if they’re hired. Show me any other educational institution that does that.
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Replying to @AustenAllred @marktnoonan and
We also have a $10,000 scholarship for minorities, and train them literally at our cost, but I don’t see that mentioned in any of the threads about how we’re screwing over minorities somehow
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Replying to @AustenAllred @marktnoonan and
And then I see endless praise of Flatiron, which charges 10% once people are making $35k *in New York City*, so feels just s tiny bit disingenuous
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Replying to @AustenAllred @marktnoonan and
Talk to
@KelvinBeachumJr who took the time to actually talk to dozens minority students, or read our reviews, or do anything other than look to find fault that actually isn’t there, and you’ll see why so many people are excited about what we’re doing1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @AustenAllred @toomuchpete and
I'm looking forward to seeing the updated website, and hopefully you can express the compassion in your policies without opening those policies up to abuse.
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Replying to @marktnoonan @AustenAllred and
Had to follow this thread from incognito because Austen blocked me, but it really looks like more of the same. The idea that someone just won’t pay if they can’t, and that’s the mechanism for avoiding bad outcomes here, reeks of privilege. It’s also not legally enforceable.
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Replying to @toomuchpete @AustenAllred and
Ugh. Blocking citrics like you and Jen Simmons is not a good way for Austen to learn & improve the informal trust-us-we-don't-screw-people "system" he has described. I would have thought that since an ISA is not debt, it couldn't be sold to debt collectors. Am I hopelessly naive?
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Replying to @marktnoonan @toomuchpete and
I don't block critics, I block people who don't engage in an argument in good faith, and who come into a conversation already having made a decision
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Replying to @AustenAllred @toomuchpete and
I've only noticed these two that have been blocked, and both I feel hold their convictions in good faith. If those convictions seem surprisingly strong, it may be because the outward appearance of your course is genuinely very different to your internal understanding of it.
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I disagree, and you don't have all of the information here
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Replying to @AustenAllred
Always true. It's your call whether the hit to your image of blocking them has a greater benifit to you. Hopefully, as I said before, most concerns can be dealt with by codifying your existing attitude into a concrete, legally safe, escape hatch for students who need it.
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