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CEO @LambdaSchool (YC S17): A CS education that's free until you get a job. I have made remarks that I do not agree with.

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    1. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Jul 8

      Austen Allred Retweeted Stephen Murray

      Ah yes the classic “work wherever you want and if you get a job in the field you got a free education for you pay up to $30,000, if not you don’t pay anything” indentured servitudehttps://twitter.com/spmurrayzzz/status/1016021475021721600 …

      Austen Allred added,

      Stephen Murray @spmurrayzzz
      Ah they figured out a new euphemism for "indentured servitude", dope https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2018/06/an-alternative-to-student-loan-debt/563093/ …
      9 replies 12 retweets 172 likes
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    2. Stephen Murray‏ @spmurrayzzz Jul 8
      Replying to @AustenAllred

      "You don't pay anything" other than all the time, effort, income, and opportunity cost while you spent 30 weeks figuring out if learning to code was right for you. Get a grip.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Jul 8
      Replying to @spmurrayzzz

      Right, the time you spend getting a free education, where normally you not only put in that time but pay tuition upfront or take out loans

      11:41 AM - 8 Jul 2018
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        2. Stephen Murray‏ @spmurrayzzz Jul 8
          Replying to @AustenAllred

          You're strawman'ing this argument which I'm not making re:traditional higher ed tracks. I didn't go that route either.

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        3. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Jul 8
          Replying to @spmurrayzzz

          You’re saying it’s indentured servitude which it’s not; it’s better than a loan in every way, and we have 100% free classes if you want to figure out if it’s right for you.

          1 reply 0 retweets 18 likes
        4. Stephen Murray‏ @spmurrayzzz Jul 8
          Replying to @AustenAllred

          Again, strawman'ing an argument I'm not making. Show me where I noted the incumbent lending cartels are the better approach?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Jul 8
          Replying to @spmurrayzzz

          Your argument was that this is indentured servitude. My argument is that that’s an insane argument.

          1 reply 0 retweets 19 likes
        6. Stephen Murray‏ @spmurrayzzz Jul 8
          Replying to @AustenAllred

          You are forced, by fiat, to pay a percentage of your per annum salary if you choose to enter the industry, Its certainly not comparable to the indentured servitude of colonial America, but that would be patently illegal in a modern civil liberty context. Its a spin job.

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        7. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Jul 8
          Replying to @spmurrayzzz

          So in other words it’s not indentured servitude at all... Agreeing to pay a capped percentage of income if that income falls within certain bounds for two years isn’t even vaguely similar to indentured servitude.

          1 reply 0 retweets 22 likes
        8. Stephen Murray‏ @spmurrayzzz Jul 8
          Replying to @AustenAllred

          You're making a semantic argument whereas I'm making a principled one.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Jul 8
          Replying to @spmurrayzzz

          Based on what principle? That paying a percentage of salary is inherently bad?

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