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CEO @LambdaSchool (YC S17): A CS education that's free until you get a job. I have made remarks that I do not agree with.

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    1. Anatoly Karp‏ @akarp Jul 3

      Deferred tuition coding bootcamp model should be a textbook example of moral hazard/adverse selection.

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    2. Joshua Engelman‏ @jaengelman Jul 3
      Replying to @akarp

      disagree, given the burden of tuition which kicks in whenever you hit 6 figures or whatever the ISA number is, you have an incentive to take a FAANG job and get it out of the way before inflation ratchets it up

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    3. Anatoly Karp‏ @akarp Jul 3
      Replying to @jaengelman

      I highly doubt that any of the coding boot camps can make a difference in whether someone gets hired by FAANG.

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    4. Joshua Engelman‏ @jaengelman Jul 3
      Replying to @akarp

      I agree that's true of most bootcamps, but the ones that give people enough technical skills to think they have a better shot at a startup than a big company might. Interested in @AustenAllred 's thoughts on this, given you're addressing his business model.

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    5. Anatoly Karp‏ @akarp Jul 3
      Replying to @jaengelman @AustenAllred

      Well, let’s parse what exactly it means to give people technical skills.

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    6. Anatoly Karp‏ @akarp Jul 3
      Replying to @akarp @jaengelman @AustenAllred

      On one hand we have people who are smart and driven. They would be “ideal students”. Unfortunately they are exactly the ones who have the least to gain from a bootcamp.

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    7. Anatoly Karp‏ @akarp Jul 3
      Replying to @akarp @jaengelman @AustenAllred

      On the other hand, a huge number of decent but not amazing students. They are not going to FAANG and many of them are not going anywhere even after the bootcamp.

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      Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Jul 3
      Replying to @akarp @jaengelman

      Also not true. We’ve had multiple FAANG offers and we’ve only had grads for 6 months. It’s certainly not every student, but with 1500 hrs of training you can get there (we’re seven months, full-time, not including prerequisites)

      11:12 PM - 3 Jul 2018
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        2. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Jul 3
          Replying to @AustenAllred @akarp @jaengelman

          Your main assumption seems to be that if you’re a good enough engineer you’d make it on your own, and that if you wouldn’t make it on your own you’re not a good enough engineer. Neither are true. What % of Googlers would be there if a university education didn’t exist? Not 100%

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        3. Joshua Engelman‏ @jaengelman Jul 3
          Replying to @AustenAllred @akarp

          I've been lucky enough to work with a bunch of brilliant people, most of whom were not lucky enough (and it is mostly luck at this point) to do a CS major at a major research university. While it's easier than it used to be, to say there are no barriers to entry is silly.

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