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CEO @LambdaSchool (YC S17): A CS education that's free until you get a job. I have made remarks that I do not agree with.

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    Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Jun 8

    A code bootcamp founder called me a couple days ago asking how Lambda School has such a diverse student body. “You have folks from all walks of life, we end up always training rich kids.” Step one: don’t charge $18,000 in upfront non-refundable tuition

    9:06 AM - 8 Jun 2018
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      2. Stephen Gross‏ @mrstevegross Jun 8
        Replying to @AustenAllred @pcperini

        How does Lambda School handle tuition?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Jun 8
        Replying to @mrstevegross @pcperini

        No tuition until you’re making $50k+ as a software engineer, then 17% of salary for two years, capped at $30k total

        4 replies 7 retweets 69 likes
      4. Özgür Akgün‏ @ozgurakgun Jun 9
        Replying to @AustenAllred @mrstevegross @pcperini

        This sounds great. I wonder how you enforce it though. How do you know people's salaries? What happens if someone changes country, how do you keep track? Or do you just trust people to comply by themselves?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Jun 9
        Replying to @ozgurakgun @mrstevegross @pcperini

        Buying data from payroll providers and getting tax returns

        1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
      6. Arthaey Angosii‏ @arthaey Jun 9
        Replying to @AustenAllred @ozgurakgun and

        Wait, does that mean that anyone can find out anyone else's salary if they pay these data providers?? O_O

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      7. Arthaey Angosii‏ @arthaey Jun 9
        Replying to @arthaey @AustenAllred and

        (It sounds like Lambda School is doing it for good reasons, and with consent; I'm just wondering about others!)

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Jun 9
        Replying to @arthaey @ozgurakgun and

        Only with authorization

        0 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
      9. End of conversation
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      2. Simon Manning‏ @_Simon_K Jun 8
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        Does everyone know you can do a programming "nano degree" with Udacity for $500?

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Jun 8
        Replying to @_Simon_K

        There are a lot of video classes that are cheap

        1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
      4. Simon Manning‏ @_Simon_K Jun 8
        Replying to @AustenAllred

        There are. What is better about a "boot camp"?

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. John Wojciechowski‏ @wojo_NYC Jun 8
        Replying to @_Simon_K @AustenAllred

        Personalized assistance and community. Makes all the difference.

        1 reply 0 retweets 13 likes
      6. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Jun 8
        Replying to @wojo_NYC @_Simon_K

        1500 hours of personalized, reactive instruction is the hard part. Video lectures is the easy part.

        1 reply 0 retweets 22 likes
      7. Simon Manning‏ @_Simon_K Jun 8
        Replying to @AustenAllred @wojo_NYC

        I find the videos great. In my degree 30yrs ago it was much harder. All you had were lecture notes and a text book.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      8. Jesse Welsh‏ @ComboRunsFTW Jun 8
        Replying to @_Simon_K @AustenAllred @wojo_NYC

        As an Instructional designer, I’d say there are benefits to both models. Yes, videos feel “better” compared to text, but the responsiveness of in-person feels superior to video. When learning new skills, I think it’s safe to say: Tell < Show < Do/Experience.

        1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
      9. Austen Allred‏Verified account @AustenAllred Jun 8
        Replying to @ComboRunsFTW @_Simon_K @wojo_NYC

        I don't think the medium is as important, the format and interaction is. Pre-recorded is hard.

        4 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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      2. Ash Ponders‏ @ashponders Jun 8
        Replying to @AustenAllred @pcperini

        Charge the rich kids 40k, give some other folks entrance gratis.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. Ihar Hrachyshka‏ @ihrachyshka Jun 8
        Replying to @ashponders @AustenAllred @pcperini

        How about no.

        1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
      4. Ash Ponders‏ @ashponders Jun 8
        Replying to @ihrachyshka @AustenAllred @pcperini

        40k is too low? Yr probably right.

        1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
      5. Ihar Hrachyshka‏ @ihrachyshka Jun 8
        Replying to @ashponders @AustenAllred @pcperini

        Dude but seriously, even if we ignore the total evil of the proposal how do you imagine it happening? Red commissars with guns working closely with IRS to determine who's rich? :)

        2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      6. Break Up PG&E Perini‏ @pcperini Jun 8
        Replying to @ihrachyshka @ashponders @AustenAllred

        Y’all, this is just how normal college works, we just frame it as a gift to the poor (scholarship) instead of a tax on the rich

        1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
      7. Ihar Hrachyshka‏ @ihrachyshka Jun 8
        Replying to @pcperini @ashponders @AustenAllred

        Colleges are different beasts, they are often non-profit / have access to government grants. I would also suggest US colleges are not a great example of how education should be financed. :)

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      8. Ash Ponders‏ @ashponders Jun 8
        Replying to @ihrachyshka @pcperini

        You’re right! We should just have the government expropriate the capital directly from the rich kids and disburse it to the less wealthy via a needs-based allotment. Even more direct. I love it. Why hasn’t anyone come up with this before?

        1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
      9. Ihar Hrachyshka‏ @ihrachyshka Jun 8
        Replying to @ashponders @pcperini

        But nevertheless. How about no.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
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