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CEO @LambdaSchool (YC S17): A CS education that's free until you get a job. I have made remarks that I do not agree with.

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    Austen Allred‏ @Austen 2 Jul 2018

    Austen Allred Retweeted Angie Meeker

    This is something I misunderstood for a long time. The value of SF isn’t finding 100 people who can write Python. It’s finding the person who led the team that did exactly what you need at Google and can spin up the team to do it like it’s second nature.https://twitter.com/angiemeeker/status/1013893486557499393 …

    Austen Allred added,

    Angie Meeker @angiemeeker
    Replying to @Austen @AustenAllred
    I don't get it. Pay someone in Ohio $100-150K and that's really respectable work. Why only hire in SF? It seems like bad business at this point.
    2:20 PM - 2 Jul 2018
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    • Andrew Scully Jayesh Gopalan MD RUMMAN HAIDER Tech Industry PLOW Vivek Shnmugam David Beaver Iris Yan Jason Liu Andrew
    31 replies 134 retweets 848 likes
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      2. Noah Rosenberg‏ @nrose 2 Jul 2018
        Replying to @Austen @AustenAllred

        This has not been true in my experience. Never met someone who could downshift from scale to startup without a lot of friction and mishaps.

        1 reply 1 retweet 9 likes
      3. Austen Allred‏ @Austen 2 Jul 2018
        Replying to @nrose

        I’m not talking about google today, I’m talking about google 15 yrs ago

        1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
      4. Noah Rosenberg‏ @nrose 2 Jul 2018
        Replying to @Austen @AustenAllred

        There are a lot of people who spun up python teams at google 15 yrs ago? Or you’re saying it was an advantage google had 15 yrs ago?

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      5. Austen Allred‏ @Austen 2 Jul 2018
        Replying to @nrose

        No they were the execs that helped google hyperscale 15 yrs ago and know how that’s done

        2 replies 2 retweets 4 likes
      6. Noah Rosenberg‏ @nrose 2 Jul 2018
        Replying to @Austen @AustenAllred

        Aah, and they’re easy to find and hire now?

        1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
      7. Austen Allred‏ @Austen 2 Jul 2018
        Replying to @nrose

        No, but they’re all in the Bay Area

        3 replies 1 retweet 12 likes
      8. Luke Marshall‏ @lukegmarshall 2 Jul 2018
        Replying to @Austen @AustenAllred @nrose

        And when those people hyperscaled Google, they had all done it before?

        1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
      9. Austen Allred‏ @Austen 3 Jul 2018
        Replying to @lukegmarshall @nrose

        Either yes or they watched people who had done it before

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      10. End of conversation
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      2. taotetek‏ @taotetek 3 Jul 2018
        Replying to @AustenAllred @PreetamJinka

        I worked with the person who created ZeroMQ along with other members of the ZeroMQ community without ever leaving Virginia. I haven't worked on networks, distributed systems and internet infrastructure my whole life in order to sit in the same room as the people I code with.

        1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
      3. taotetek‏ @taotetek 3 Jul 2018
        Replying to @taotetek @AustenAllred @PreetamJinka

        I assert that given what is happening in the U.S. right now, the idea that the best programmers and engineers are going to keep living in Silicon Valley, or even U.S. at all, is incorrect and a bad bet.

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      4. Austen Allred‏ @Austen 3 Jul 2018
        Replying to @taotetek @PreetamJinka

        Again, it's not about engineers, it's about executives

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      5. taotetek‏ @taotetek 3 Jul 2018
        Replying to @Austen @AustenAllred @PreetamJinka

        I assert that given what is happening in the U.S. right now, the idea that the best executives are going to keep living in Silicon Valley, or even U.S. at all, is incorrect and a bad bet.

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      6. Austen Allred‏ @Austen 3 Jul 2018
        Replying to @taotetek @PreetamJinka

        I assert that right now 90% of the top tech execs live within 200 miles of Palo Alto. What happens in the future I don't pretend to know

        1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
      7. taotetek‏ @taotetek 3 Jul 2018
        Replying to @AustenAllred @PreetamJinka

        I suppose if your goal is to repeat patterns of extracting value from programmers while building products that collect and sell data, this makes sense. I think our world views are too different to have a nuanced discussion 280 characters at a time.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      8. Austen Allred‏ @Austen 3 Jul 2018
        Replying to @taotetek @PreetamJinka

        I agree on your last point. The notion that all that happens in SV is extracting value from programmers and collecting and selling data is just silly, and you know that

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
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      2. Steven Sinofsky‏Verified account @stevesi 2 Jul 2018
        Replying to @AustenAllred @AustenAllred

        Need to be sure you really need that thing--often only in the abstract is that true. There's a great lesson on that in the book "Dreaming In Code" (no matter the problem, calendaring for example, they were going to get an object-oriented database). https://smile.amazon.com/Dreaming-Code-Programmers-Transcendent-Software-ebook/dp/B000PDZFOI/ …

        3 replies 1 retweet 46 likes
      3. Austen Allred‏ @Austen 2 Jul 2018
        Replying to @stevesi

        This is a great point

        0 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
      4. End of conversation
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      2. josiah‏ @jgulden 2 Jul 2018
        Replying to @Austen @AustenAllred

        sure, but at what point does it become exponentially easier to get a key executive to relocate to another market than to build a killer team of ICs in SFBA for them to lead?

        2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
      3. Austen Allred‏ @Austen 2 Jul 2018
        Replying to @jgulden

        That's the million dollar question

        0 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
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