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Surgeon, Writer, Researcher, Dilettante. https://www.ariadnelabs.org/  http://www.lifebox.org/ 

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    Atul Gawande‏Verified account @Atul_Gawande 21 Jul 2017

    .@tylercowen theory of why US spends 50% more on health care than anyone else: cuz we spend 50% more on everything.https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-07-20/spending-a-lot-on-health-care-is-the-american-way …

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      2. Malcolm McGowan‏ @MalcolmKMcGowan 21 Jul 2017
        Replying to @Atul_Gawande @tylercowen

        Amount spent less interesting than value for $. More $ spent on cars=more, better cars. /1

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      3. Malcolm McGowan‏ @MalcolmKMcGowan 21 Jul 2017
        Replying to @MalcolmKMcGowan @Atul_Gawande @tylercowen

        More $ in US spent on healthcare does not result in more healthcare or better health outcomes. /2

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      1. Dare To Think‏ @BlueAnt2014 21 Jul 2017
        Replying to @Atul_Gawande @tylercowen

        Not once insurers are mentioned in this phony article about high health costs. We are robbed blind by them daily, get nothing in return.

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      2. OtherDays‏ @OtherDays_Music 21 Jul 2017
        Replying to @Atul_Gawande @tylercowen

        Economists who are not health economists should at least read Arrow before writing anything on the topic. https://web.stanford.edu/~jay/health_class/Readings/Lecture01/arrow.pdf … (1/2)

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      3. OtherDays‏ @OtherDays_Music 21 Jul 2017
        Replying to @OtherDays_Music @Atul_Gawande @tylercowen

        Market failures inherent to private health insurance lead to US's high expenditure. It's embarrassing @tylercowen ignores this (2/2)

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      4. Jeremy Horpedahl  🍍‏ @jmhorp 21 Jul 2017
        Replying to @OtherDays_Music @Atul_Gawande @tylercowen

        Pretty sure Tyler has read Arrow (1963)

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      5. OtherDays‏ @OtherDays_Music 24 Jul 2017
        Replying to @jmhorp @Atul_Gawande @tylercowen

        His article suggests he has not understood the market failures inherent to a health system that relies chiefly on private health insurance

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      6. Jeremy Horpedahl  🍍‏ @jmhorp 24 Jul 2017
        Replying to @OtherDays_Music @Atul_Gawande @tylercowen

        I think you are misreading Arrow

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      7. OtherDays‏ @OtherDays_Music 24 Jul 2017
        Replying to @jmhorp @Atul_Gawande @tylercowen

        My 'reading' is the standard one! See http://www.scielosp.org/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0042-96862004000200012 … or https://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2009/07/kenneth_arrow_on_health_care … or evenhttps://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/03/liberals-are-wrong-free-market-health-care-is-possible/254648/ …

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      8. Jeremy Horpedahl  🍍‏ @jmhorp 25 Jul 2017
        Replying to @OtherDays_Music @Atul_Gawande @tylercowen

        Nothing in Arrow predicts higher expenditures. In fact, it predicts fewer expenditures because markets will partially breakdown (not exist)

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      9. OtherDays‏ @OtherDays_Music 25 Jul 2017
        Replying to @jmhorp @Atul_Gawande @tylercowen

        There is indeed a breakdown, as a high % of the population are uninsured and insurance companies do not want to take on the risk (1)

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      2. Mitchel Lichtman‏ @mitchellichtman 21 Jul 2017
        Replying to @Atul_Gawande @tylercowen

        Yes, but do we get 50% more or better health care? That's not a fair analogy. If we spend 50% more of housing it's because we get a bigger

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      3. Mitchel Lichtman‏ @mitchellichtman 21 Jul 2017
        Replying to @mitchellichtman @Atul_Gawande @tylercowen

        ...and better house. The question is whether we get any more value from the extra money we spend on health care, and if so, how much?

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      4. Mitchel Lichtman‏ @mitchellichtman 21 Jul 2017
        Replying to @mitchellichtman @Atul_Gawande @tylercowen

        ...Also what's important is whether we "voluntarily" spend more on health care. No one forces Americans to buy expensive cars and homes.

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      1. Jim Tomlinson‏ @JimTomJazz 21 Jul 2017
        Replying to @Atul_Gawande @tylercowen

        Americans may have 50% more TVs but are they 50% more healthy? Is expensive US healthcare a Veblen good?

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      1. Prof. Colin Talbot  🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🇬🇧 🇪🇺‏ @colinrtalbot 21 Jul 2017
        Replying to @Atul_Gawande @tylercowen

        Cos you have a useless hybrid public-private system that eats transaction costs and is milked by drugs and insurance corps?

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      1. Patricia Parulekar‏ @P_P_Parulekar 21 Jul 2017
        Replying to @Atul_Gawande @tylercowen

        US health care spending is a special case of insurer and private provider greed, not the bad taste of Americans

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      1. Joshua Winsor‏ @joshuatwinsor 21 Jul 2017
        Replying to @Atul_Gawande @tylercowen

        hmm, an iPhone costs about 20% more in most of Europe so actually we should be getting more for less, instead we are getting less for more

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