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National politics reporter at The New York Times. CNN political analyst. Real one in these streets. astead.herndon@nytimes.com

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    Astead‏Verified account @AsteadWesley 20 Jun 2020

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    I have been following the capitalization debates and I understand the arguments for capitalizing both Black and White or neither black or white but Black and not white is yet to make sense to me (yet seems to be the growing consensus?) https://twitter.com/eveewing/status/1274549596363149314 …

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      1. JD‏ @skidoosh10 20 Jun 2020
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        I feel like we could be spending our time more wisely.

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      1. Nate Brunner‏ @mcnater 20 Jun 2020
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        as a clueless white guy I've been wondering the same honestly. I get the Black distinction but have been honestly wondering why not both.

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      1. Joanne Haagenson‏ @joannehaagenson 20 Jun 2020
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        I think that's fair. So far, arguments I've seen don't really carry equitable logic.

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      1. sahra‏ @sahrasulaiman 20 Jun 2020
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        sahra Retweeted Nader Issa

        And then there's this, which makes no sense to me as a brown person tbh, but they're still going to keep "white" lowercasehttps://twitter.com/NaderDIssa/status/1272649054514749441 …

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        The Chicago Sun-Times will capitalize the "B" in Black when referring to people who are part of the African diaspora, newsroom management just announced. The same will be done for the "B" in Brown, so Sun-Times style will now read "Black and Brown communities."
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      2. Todd Barranca‏ @Evading_Review 20 Jun 2020
        Replying to @AsteadWesley

        capitalize white, but only the H wHite

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      3. Tom Atkins‏ @ATomEAtkins 21 Jun 2020
        Replying to @Evading_Review @AsteadWesley

        That also indicates how it should be pronounced - Hwite.

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      1. Joshua J. Friedman‏ @joshuajfriedman 20 Jun 2020
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        One way to make sense of the discrepancy is that there's an element of deferring to a group's choices in naming itself. "Black" has a constituency demanding the capital letter as a sign of respect, and "white" doesn't. That outweighs the pure logic of consistency.

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      2. Penina Beede‏ @realpenina 20 Jun 2020
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        Black is an ethnicity, like Italian or Jewish. White is not an ethnicity; it merely serves to differentiate from BIPOC.

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      3. ari‏ @gonehaunting 20 Jun 2020
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        Black isn’t an ethnicity.

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      2. Alan Zibel‏ @AlanZibel 22 Jun 2020
        Replying to @TheTJHelm @AsteadWesley

        Exactly! Those lobbying for "capital W" white tend to be the wearers of white hoods. Italian-Americans, Polish-Americans, Jewish Americans, Irish-Americans, etc. often prefer to be identified by their ancestry.

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