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    1. Aristokles Smith‏ @Aristokles11235 Nov 8

      A 69 year old Dutch businessman sues in court to have his legal age reduced by 20 years because he identifies as 49. Hard to see how 'progressive' logic can gainsay that, isn't it?https://goo.gl/az1j9z 

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    2. Aristokles Smith‏ @Aristokles11235 Nov 8

      "He also compared his desire to legally change his age to that of transgender people seeking to change their birth certificates. “You can change your name. You can change your gender. Why not your age?”"

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    3. EJ. Watson‏ @ejwatsonjr Nov 9
      Replying to @Aristokles11235

      Because age isn’t a social construct.

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    4. Aristokles Smith‏ @Aristokles11235 Nov 9
      Replying to @ejwatsonjr

      Niether are chromosomes.

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    5. EJ. Watson‏ @ejwatsonjr Nov 9
      Replying to @Aristokles11235

      Correct, chromosomes are not a social construct. But looking solely at chromosomes there is the possibility of far more than just two sexes, so when we narrowed down that chromosomal diversity found in the world to just two genders we developed a social construction.

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    6. Aristokles Smith‏ @Aristokles11235 Nov 9
      Replying to @ejwatsonjr

      I'm resisting the impulse to simply post a sarcastic quip. You seem like an intelligent man. I have trouble believing that you seriously believe what you just tweeted.

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    7. Aristokles Smith‏ @Aristokles11235 Nov 9
      Replying to @Aristokles11235 @ejwatsonjr

      Beelzebub certainly doesn't treat 'the sexes' as a social construct, "... distinct and opposite sexes ... that is to say in 'men' and 'women' ..." -pic.twitter.com/ySWiFtble0

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    8. EJ. Watson‏ @ejwatsonjr Nov 9
      Replying to @Aristokles11235

      I do not read Beelzebub’s Tales as literally as you do.

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    9. EJ. Watson‏ @ejwatsonjr Nov 9
      Replying to @ejwatsonjr @Aristokles11235

      I also would never use BT to support an argument I’m making about politics or society even in areas where I think BT does “support” my beliefs. I think that would be using the text incorrectly. I use it for inner work, not social commentary. This is where Christianity went wrong.

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    10. Rob Couture‏ @couturerob Nov 9
      Replying to @ejwatsonjr @Aristokles11235

      The series of books is called "All and Everything" for a reason. Gurdjieff's writings, his aim, and his life do not support a compartmentalized treatment of the Work. I don't know why you think it does.

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      Aristokles Smith‏ @Aristokles11235 Nov 9
      Replying to @couturerob @ejwatsonjr

      He thinks it does because to think otherwise wouldn't allow him to comfortably fit in with all of the other people in his environment that think exactly the same way he does about the very latest "burning question of the day".

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        2. Aristokles Smith‏ @Aristokles11235 Nov 9
          Replying to @Aristokles11235 @couturerob @ejwatsonjr

          It's a very convenient stance. Gurdjieff writes hundreds of pages of meta-historical/social commentary. You write it all off in favor of a purely 'spiritual' interpretation because, well you just know better. It all gets reduced to something indistinguishable from, say Buddhism.

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        3. Aristokles Smith‏ @Aristokles11235 Nov 9
          Replying to @Aristokles11235 @couturerob @ejwatsonjr

          "... where Christianity went wrong..." was to pick and choose what to believe rather than striving to be able to do all that was required. Call it theological 'self calming'. Nobody thinks that 1John 3:9 means what it says. Too threatening, too demanding. Therein lies the problem

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        2. Mortal McLendon‏ @MrRCMcLendon Nov 12
          Replying to @Aristokles11235 @couturerob @ejwatsonjr

          He interprets Beelzebub vis a vis his politics. We, assuming Gurdjieff to be a messenger from above, do the reverse. If one plots the path of one's inner work based on beliefs one had before embarking, isn't one doomed to walk in circles and get nowhere?pic.twitter.com/NQGobnsQHY

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        3. EJ. Watson‏ @ejwatsonjr Nov 12
          Replying to @MrRCMcLendon @Aristokles11235 @couturerob

          I guess the point where we diverge is in believing that Gurdjieff is a “messenger from above.” All arguments beyond that would be futile.

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        4. Mortal McLendon‏ @MrRCMcLendon Nov 12
          Replying to @ejwatsonjr @Aristokles11235 @couturerob

          If he's not, why commit yourself to the Work at all? Since you obviously consider yourself qualified to interpret his teaching according to your own judgment, why not just skip the proxy and go with your own judgement?

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