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    Ari Weinstein Verified account ‏@AriX 6 Aug 2015

    WinObjC is chock full of crude shortcuts, questionable design decisions, and ridiculously incomplete implementations.pic.twitter.com/fedhVJWjjB

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    • A Row of Ghoulesa 👻 Joaquín E. Amorós Tom Brow Javi Aidan M. Follestad Lennart Kerkvliet Nacho Soto 🎃 Marcel Voss 👻 0xBADC0D3
    1:53 PM - 6 Aug 2015
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      1. Daniel Jalkut ‏@danielpunkass 17 Aug 2015

        @AriX Wow, so strange for non-beta, fully supported, production quality software to be this way ;)

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      2. Ari Weinstein ‏@AriX 17 Aug 2015

        @danielpunkass I was surprised by how low the quality was given the number of high-quality open source implementations of these frameworks.

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      3. Daniel Jalkut ‏@danielpunkass 17 Aug 2015

        @AriX Hm, maybe. I wonder if licensing terms keep them away from some.

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      4. Ari Weinstein ‏@AriX 17 Aug 2015

        @danielpunkass You'd think, but they actually ripped code from several open source projects, regardless of licenses.

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      5. Ari Weinstein ‏@AriX 17 Aug 2015

        @danielpunkass Several of the projects they ripped (especially Cocotron) had higher-quality implementations than what they used.

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      7. Ari Weinstein ‏@AriX 17 Aug 2015

        @danielpunkass And they didn't provide proper attribution for the parts they did use.

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      8. Daniel Jalkut ‏@danielpunkass 17 Aug 2015

        @AriX Right, interesting. There definitely seem to be some missteps.

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      1. Rogelio Gudino ‏@cananito 6 Aug 2015

        @arix @javi I guess: 1. How many people worked on it? 2. How long did it take? Hard to replicate 20+ years into whatever they took.

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      2. Ari Weinstein ‏@AriX 6 Aug 2015

        @cananito @Javi Yeah, but between Chameleon, GNUStep, Cocotron, Apportable, and Apple open source code it's not too hard to get it right.

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      4. Ari Weinstein ‏@AriX 6 Aug 2015

        @cananito @Javi A few years ago I went to a hackathon and got a hacked-up Foundation up-and-running on Android in 24 hours.

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      5. Ari Weinstein ‏@AriX 6 Aug 2015

        @cananito @Javi The code quality of my 24-hour project was comparable to that of WinObjC (maybe an exaggeration, but still!)

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      1. Kevin Chen ‏@kevinchen 6 Aug 2015 Duboce Triangle, San Francisco

        .@AriX @b3ll Criticism is easy, but you try reimplementing all of Foundation and UIKit. I’m sure there would be just as many stubs.

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      2. Ari Weinstein ‏@AriX 6 Aug 2015

        Ari Weinstein Retweeted Ari Weinstein

        @kevinchen @b3ll Certainly it's not easy, and they deserve credit for pulling it off. But I do have experience here!https://twitter.com/AriX/status/629448802785628162 …

        Ari Weinstein added,

        Ari Weinstein @AriX
        @cananito @Javi Yeah, but between Chameleon, GNUStep, Cocotron, Apportable, and Apple open source code it's not too hard to get it right.
        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      1. The Office ‏@tworkplace 6 Aug 2015

        @AriX have you ever looked under the covers of UIKit?

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      2. Ari Weinstein ‏@AriX 6 Aug 2015

        @tworkplace Believe me, I have. It's scary at times. But not like this.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      1. Matt Massicotte ‏@mattie 6 Aug 2015

        @AriX :)

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      2. Javi ‏@Javi 6 Aug 2015 Berkeley, CA

        @mattie @AriX I'm curious what this means haha

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      3. Matt Massicotte ‏@mattie 7 Aug 2015

        @Javi @AriX making sure it’s clear I’m (partially) joking about 1.0s having to be terrible

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    1. Yichen Cao ‏@schemetrical 7 Aug 2015

      @AriX Also lots of empty implementations, UIWebView is a tragedy. // TODO: implement me!pic.twitter.com/EwIIFb73Iw

      0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    2. Anthony Castelli ‏@anthness 6 Aug 2015

      @AriX I cringed at the first horrible thing I saw. Had to close it out as it was one after the other

      0 replies 0 retweets 1 like

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