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    1. Eva Blum-Dumontet  🦝‏ @Arcadian_O 21 Dec 2015

      @wwaites @dmytri Don't get me wrong would be happy to have an alternative to GP. ATM the alternative for my sources is no crypto at all.

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    2. Dmytri Kleiner‏ @dmytri 21 Dec 2015
      Replying to @Arcadian_O

      @Arcadian_O @wwaites as mentioned, "people at risk" should not trust phones, ever, but in terms of Crypto, there is Email/Jabber w/ OTR/PGP

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      Eva Blum-Dumontet  🦝‏ @Arcadian_O 21 Dec 2015
      Replying to @dmytri

      @dmytri @wwaites Have you ever tried teaching PGP to someone in a different country than yours who doesn't know what a mail client is?

      4:44 AM - 21 Dec 2015
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        2. Dmytri Kleiner‏ @dmytri 21 Dec 2015
          Replying to @Arcadian_O

          @Arcadian_O @wwaites so instead you will tell them to use a phone with GP on it? And you think that is a good idea if they are "at risk?"

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        3. Eva Blum-Dumontet  🦝‏ @Arcadian_O 21 Dec 2015
          Replying to @dmytri

          @dmytri @wwaites First of all there are various degree of risks. I have in the past told people "stop talking on the phone" i'll travel 1/2

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        2. Dmytri Kleiner‏ @dmytri 21 Dec 2015
          Replying to @Arcadian_O

          @Arcadian_O @wwaites @whvholst this is the worst argument of all, that people can be safe with no knowledge of what they are doing.

          2 replies 1 retweet 1 like
        3. () { :;}జ్ఞ‌ా(){ జ్ఞ‌ా|జ్ఞ‌ా&};జ్ఞ‌ా‏ @okhin 21 Dec 2015
          Replying to @dmytri

          @dmytri @Arcadian_O @wwaites @whvholst why? People without the capacity to understand those hings, do not deserves crypto?

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        4. Dmytri Kleiner‏ @dmytri 21 Dec 2015
          Replying to @okhin

          @okhin @Arcadian_O @wwaites @whvholst they certainly deserve it, but it's dangerous.

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        5. () { :;}జ్ఞ‌ా(){ జ్ఞ‌ా|జ్ఞ‌ా&};జ్ఞ‌ా‏ @okhin 21 Dec 2015
          Replying to @dmytri

          @dmytri @Arcadian_O @wwaites @whvholst why? Because clumsy interfaces keeps getting in their ways?

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        6. Dmytri Kleiner‏ @dmytri 21 Dec 2015
          Replying to @okhin

          @okhin @Arcadian_O @wwaites @whvholst because slick interfaces to do not guarantee safety.

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        7. () { :;}జ్ఞ‌ా(){ జ్ఞ‌ా|జ్ఞ‌ా&};జ్ఞ‌ా‏ @okhin 21 Dec 2015
          Replying to @dmytri

          @dmytri @Arcadian_O @wwaites @whvholst I disagree with that. You can have a slick and comprehensive interface with safe defaults.

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        8. Dmytri Kleiner‏ @dmytri 21 Dec 2015
          Replying to @okhin

          @okhin @Arcadian_O @wwaites @whvholst how do you know it's safe when it requires proprietary software to be installed?

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        9. () { :;}జ్ఞ‌ా(){ జ్ఞ‌ా|జ్ఞ‌ా&};జ్ఞ‌ా‏ @okhin 21 Dec 2015
          Replying to @dmytri

          @dmytri @Arcadian_O @wwaites @whvholst slick interface does not equals proprietary software. Eg: http://tox.chat 

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        2. Walter van Holst‏ @whvholst 21 Dec 2015
          Replying to @Arcadian_O

          @Arcadian_O @dmytri @wwaites Exactly. OTR/PGP are completely inane elitist bollocks to people that are doing actual activism on the ground.

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        3. Dmytri Kleiner‏ @dmytri 21 Dec 2015
          Replying to @whvholst

          @whvholst @Arcadian_O @wwaites "just install this magic software" is the wrong advice to give to "people at risk" especially when non-free.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Walter van Holst‏ @whvholst 21 Dec 2015
          Replying to @dmytri

          @dmytri @Arcadian_O @wwaites Requiring to understand magic of software (free or not) & crypto is an elitist requirement. Not buying it.

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        5. Dmytri Kleiner‏ @dmytri 21 Dec 2015
          Replying to @whvholst

          @whvholst @Arcadian_O @wwaites OK, keep advising people to install Google Play then. I'll keep promoting free software.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Walter van Holst‏ @whvholst 21 Dec 2015
          Replying to @dmytri

          @dmytri @Arcadian_O @wwaites Or you could make a Google Play free fork of Signal. Get rid of the phone # as well, while you're at it.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Dmytri Kleiner‏ @dmytri 21 Dec 2015
          Replying to @whvholst

          @whvholst @Arcadian_O @wwaites If you do that, @moxie will threaten to take his ball and go home, see #issue127

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Walter van Holst‏ @whvholst 21 Dec 2015
          Replying to @dmytri

          @dmytri @Arcadian_O @wwaites @moxie can go home for all I care if he gets in the way of progress. Google Play is a problem that needs fixing

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        9. Dmytri Kleiner‏ @dmytri 21 Dec 2015
          Replying to @whvholst

          @whvholst @Arcadian_O @wwaites @moxie This is not a hypothetical, this is exactly what is happening, see issue127 among things.

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