@Snowden Of course that is a credible tactical argument to get metadata ASAP, so as to isolate burner before discard. Just saying.
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@AoDespair Many disagree. And NSA gets metadata and content in advance of warrant, by virtue of tech. Only use ("targeting") is caveated. -
@AoDespair Lawyers and policy people are comfortable with "trust us," but the record is clear that that's a mistake.https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2013/08/24/loveint-when-nsa-officers-use-their-spying-power-on-love-interests/ … -
@Snowden@kansasalps My training is that of a newspaperman. All gov'ts lie, as per IF Stone. And yet they must govern nonetheless. -
@AoDespair The distance between governing and ruling is measured in the capacity to exercise power without accountability. The lies matter. -
@Snowden@AoDespair When the gov't condemns the criticism & revelation of its true workings it has thusly admitted it's tyrannical nature. -
@LuckyPyrate@Snowden if-then proposition is flawed. Not re: criticism, but revelat'n Every gov on Earth must maintain legit sec secrets. -
@AoDespair@Snowden I refer not to revelation in total, but revelation that violates the basic rights of the citizenry must be made known. -
@LuckyPyrate@Snowden We are actually still waiting for first revelation of NSA data pile being used against citizens. In theory? .... - Show more
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@AoDespair@Snowden FYI, In the state of Maryland, location data now requires a court order with probable cause. -
@csoghoian@Snowden same for phone metadata correct? Again, court order is one thing. Warrant another. -
@AoDespair@Snowden The "court orders" used to obtain location data require probable cause. They are, for all intents and purposes, warrants -
@AoDespair@Snowden If by metadata, you mean call records, then no, that does not require a warrant in Maryland. It does in some states. -
@csoghoian@Snowden Gotcha. But can I assume all US metadata acquisition still operating under Smith v Md.? -
@AoDespair@Snowden Federal law acts as a floor. States are free to provide higher protections (but only apply to state/local cops, not FBI) -
@csoghoian@Snowden I don't think this is correct. A fed investigation goes by US code to fed court, no? -
@AoDespair@Snowden The FBI is constrained by federal law. States cannot constrain federal LEO. But states can constrain local cops. - Show more
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@Snowden Questions about bulk capture are another thing entirely. But there again, Issues of speed/efficacy are o be dealt with.
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