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Author, journalist, and TV writer/producer. Angriest Man in Television is faint praise indeed.

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    1. David Simon ‏@AoDespair 20 Mar 2016

      @Snowden Of course that is a credible tactical argument to get metadata ASAP, so as to isolate burner before discard. Just saying.

      1 reply 32 retweets 82 likes
    2. Edward Snowden ‏@Snowden 20 Mar 2016

      @AoDespair Not really. Phones used in real-world ops are disposed on a per-action, or per-call basis. Lifetimes of minutes, hours. Not days.

      3 replies 48 retweets 139 likes
    3. David Simon ‏@AoDespair 20 Mar 2016

      @Snowden Can't speak to shelf-life of disposible phone in Pakistan. In Baltimore, discipline and cost are such that it can be days.

      4 replies 26 retweets 81 likes
    4. Edward Snowden ‏@Snowden 20 Mar 2016

      @AoDespair Fair point. My background is in intelligence, not law enforcement. Transnational terrorists aren't hurting for burners.

      2 replies 26 retweets 104 likes
    5. David Simon ‏@AoDespair 20 Mar 2016

      @Snowden Neither should top-end drug traffickers in the more affluent US. And yet by the time the process trickles to the corner boys....

      2 replies 23 retweets 66 likes
    6. Edward Snowden ‏@Snowden 20 Mar 2016

      @AoDespair Tbf, mass surveillance wasn't pitched to catch "corner boys" or even "The Greek," but on thwarting OBLs. And there, never worked.

      3 replies 45 retweets 130 likes
    7. Edward Snowden ‏@Snowden 20 Mar 2016

      @AoDespair Commercial activities (drug sales) will always generate records that sporadic offensive operations (terrorism) will not.

      3 replies 38 retweets 106 likes
    8. David Simon ‏@AoDespair 20 Mar 2016

      @Snowden Differences sure. But it's remains that coms are the singular place where any conspiracy is vulnerable prior to crime. Gotta try.

      3 replies 17 retweets 49 likes
    9. David Simon ‏@AoDespair 20 Mar 2016

      @Snowden I acknowledge fears of a panopticon. I wish others would also acknowledge that coms are an elemental investigative avenue.

      4 replies 20 retweets 62 likes
    10. Edward Snowden ‏@Snowden 20 Mar 2016

      @AoDespair Nobody argues against comms surveillance. They argue about scope. Handsets v. networks. "Collect it all" v. individual warrants.

      4 replies 59 retweets 185 likes
      David Simon Verified account ‏@AoDespair 20 Mar 2016

      @Snowden We are not equating a court order with a Title III are we? Cuz metadata has never required a full warrant. Nor should it.

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        1. Edward Snowden ‏@Snowden 20 Mar 2016

          @AoDespair Many disagree. And NSA gets metadata and content in advance of warrant, by virtue of tech. Only use ("targeting") is caveated.

          2 replies 29 retweets 87 likes
        2. Edward Snowden ‏@Snowden 20 Mar 2016

          @AoDespair Lawyers and policy people are comfortable with "trust us," but the record is clear that that's a mistake.https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2013/08/24/loveint-when-nsa-officers-use-their-spying-power-on-love-interests/ …

          8 replies 68 retweets 163 likes
        3. David Simon ‏@AoDespair 20 Mar 2016

          @Snowden @kansasalps My training is that of a newspaperman. All gov'ts lie, as per IF Stone. And yet they must govern nonetheless.

          6 replies 22 retweets 89 likes
        4. Edward Snowden ‏@Snowden 20 Mar 2016

          @AoDespair The distance between governing and ruling is measured in the capacity to exercise power without accountability. The lies matter.

          13 replies 290 retweets 385 likes
        5. Lucky Pyrate ‏@LuckyPyrate 20 Mar 2016

          @Snowden @AoDespair When the gov't condemns the criticism & revelation of its true workings it has thusly admitted it's tyrannical nature.

          1 reply 5 retweets 8 likes
        6. David Simon ‏@AoDespair 20 Mar 2016

          @LuckyPyrate @Snowden if-then proposition is flawed. Not re: criticism, but revelat'n Every gov on Earth must maintain legit sec secrets.

          1 reply 3 retweets 3 likes
        7. Lucky Pyrate ‏@LuckyPyrate 20 Mar 2016

          @AoDespair @Snowden I refer not to revelation in total, but revelation that violates the basic rights of the citizenry must be made known.

          1 reply 2 retweets 4 likes
        8. David Simon ‏@AoDespair 20 Mar 2016

          @LuckyPyrate @Snowden We are actually still waiting for first revelation of NSA data pile being used against citizens. In theory? ....

          4 replies 5 retweets 7 likes
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        1. Christopher Soghoian ‏@csoghoian 20 Mar 2016

          @AoDespair @Snowden FYI, In the state of Maryland, location data now requires a court order with probable cause.

          1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
        2. David Simon ‏@AoDespair 20 Mar 2016

          @csoghoian @Snowden same for phone metadata correct? Again, court order is one thing. Warrant another.

          1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
        3. Christopher Soghoian ‏@csoghoian 20 Mar 2016

          @AoDespair @Snowden The "court orders" used to obtain location data require probable cause. They are, for all intents and purposes, warrants

          1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
        4. Christopher Soghoian ‏@csoghoian 20 Mar 2016

          @AoDespair @Snowden If by metadata, you mean call records, then no, that does not require a warrant in Maryland. It does in some states.

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        5. David Simon ‏@AoDespair 20 Mar 2016

          @csoghoian @Snowden Gotcha. But can I assume all US metadata acquisition still operating under Smith v Md.?

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        6. Christopher Soghoian ‏@csoghoian 20 Mar 2016

          @AoDespair @Snowden Federal law acts as a floor. States are free to provide higher protections (but only apply to state/local cops, not FBI)

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        7. David Simon ‏@AoDespair 20 Mar 2016

          @csoghoian @Snowden I don't think this is correct. A fed investigation goes by US code to fed court, no?

          4 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        8. Christopher Soghoian ‏@csoghoian 20 Mar 2016

          @AoDespair @Snowden The FBI is constrained by federal law. States cannot constrain federal LEO. But states can constrain local cops.

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      1. David Simon ‏@AoDespair 20 Mar 2016

        @Snowden Questions about bulk capture are another thing entirely. But there again, Issues of speed/efficacy are o be dealt with.

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