100% agreed, same for me. Seriously, the casual misogyny/racism/antisemitism/ableism behavior of the Aimee Terese/stupidpol crowd leaves the door *wide* open for Nazis to walk right into our movemnt.https://twitter.com/beccalew/status/1246215348581306368 …
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Nah, she's got a good point. The Aimee Terese crowd is getting pretty cozy with neo-Nazis like Eric Striker, and it's their class reductionist politics plus their dogpiling style of online interaction that leaves the door open for Nazis to walk in and start recruiting.
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En réponse à @AntiFashGordon @KertVile
Does Terese have a crowd that… ISN’T crypto-fash? Like, I only know who she is because of people screenshotting her fascist takes. All that stupidpol stuff doesn’t even seem left-adjacent, it’s like an attempt at infiltration that only draws their own people
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I think the attraction is primarily for reactionary cis white dudes, who definitely feel like they got fucked over by capitalism, but still want to retain the privileges of being cis white dudes.
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En réponse à @AntiFashGordon @KertVile
Sure, I think tho elements of the discourse are flattening stuff like Chapo (problematic-but-of-the-left) with stupidpol/Terese/etc (just cryptofash shit)
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En réponse à @acekatana @KertVile
Definitely. I think there needs to be a different word, or maybe just some subterms or something, to differentiate the stupidpol crowd from the Chapo crowd, even if there is some overlap. It's not fair to people who are maybe casual fans of a problematic podcast.
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People have been using dirtbag left for Chapo for a while and it seems apt?
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Oh, totally, but I think there's a significant difference between Chapo (which can be class reductionist) and the gleeful casual racism of, say, r/stupidpol or the fans of Aimee Terese and the "anti-woke left" profiled here, and that merits a distinction.https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/07/04/meet-the-anti-woke-left/ …
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I was saying it seems like a fairly descriptive distinction. Chapo's left, but their analysis is shallow af and frequently runs aground on intersectional topics and racial sensitivity with their humor. They didn't commit to unlearning enough. It's lazy.
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I agree 100%, but I think there's a difference between "lazy" and "actively harmful." I think Chapo serves a purpose in helping to radicalize people w/r/t class. The problem is when those people (usually white and cis) don't move on to also embrace other liberatory movements.
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Yeah we're on the same page here. You gotta meet people where they're at, but they could do better. It's just kinda generally disappointing.
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Reevaluating what I said.https://twitter.com/mr0x20wednesday/status/1253267856218820609 …
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Wednesday @mr0x20wednesdaySo uh, considering the ties with weev what are the odds that Chapo's an intentional repeat of the same shit that happened in Anonymous about a decade ago? It definitely is on his part. Because this whole song and dance looks awfully familiar. https://twitter.com/gwensnyderPHL/status/1253122717609365505 …Afficher cette discussion0 réponse 0 Retweet 0 j'aime
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