It is also clear that mistakes have been made and these need to be fixed. It is also legitimate for many to be angry, and this by no way is a sameness argument. Like many Googlers I too am shocked and saddened. 2/n
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I had the privilege of working alongside both Timnit and Jeff at the
@DeepIndaba. I learned a lot from Timnit at the CIFAR ethics workshop, and worked again with Jeff at@Khipu_AI trying to improve AI in Latin America. 3/n1 reply 0 retweets 31 likesShow this thread -
I support Jeff because throughout those outreach events he was a true champion of making science and tech more diverse. He has put his time and his own money behind many diversity efforts. He is a remarkable individuals, but even remarkable individuals make mistakes. 4/n
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I have to support both Jeff an Timnit because I admire what they stand for. Because I know they are both suffering. But of course this must be investigated and with reflection and dialogue we need to change for the better 5/n
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Our fields have since their beginning been horrible to women and reflected many other biases in the world at large. We have a long way to go and sometimes the slow pace is truly annoying. We must do more 6/n
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However as
@natschluter best put it we must be able to deplore and act without bringing down an individual that has done so much social good too, not to mention the important role he is playing in fighting a pandemic as we speak 7/n2 replies 0 retweets 47 likesShow this thread -
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I am disappointed
@NandoDF this long thread does nothing but to reinforce that@JeffDean is a good guy so we should be nice to him. Empathize with him. That is harmful to#DiversityandInclusion Good guys are enablers of racism and sexism.3 replies 4 retweets 21 likes -
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@AnimaAnandkumar I think it's a valid concern that the "good guy" argument has been brandished to defend enablers, but I worry that this comment ignores a lot of the context that@NandoDF has carefully articulated in this thread (including after your comment).2 replies 0 retweets 10 likes -
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I don't know Jeff or Timnit personally, and like many others I'm incredibly frustrated and upset to see this happen - I want answers too (and given how I feel I can't imagine how people in URGs feel).
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But we can demand answers without discarding all prior context. And that's partly why this hurts more - the fact that many felt Jeff had indeed in the past done much for DEI and growing the field. This is not about using "the good guy" argument to ignore mistakes made.
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I have incredible respect for @JeffDean and considered him an ally. He was pivotal in @NeurIPSConf name change. But none of it matters in light of colossal error of judgment he made with @timnitGebru It has led a severe blow to #DiversityandInclusion
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Replying to @AnimaAnandkumar @drao64 and
How can somebody fire somebody and then tweet out his thoughts on that person's resignation? That would be my first question on judging character and respect for somebody. Dec 4 from his tweet "I understand the concern over Timnit’s resignation from Google."
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