This will be a long thread. It represents my views solely. Many are puzzled by why I feel it possible to support both @JeffDean and @timnitGebru so I’d like to explain. I will start by saying that this in no way denies any current or past injustices. 1/n
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It is also clear that mistakes have been made and these need to be fixed. It is also legitimate for many to be angry, and this by no way is a sameness argument. Like many Googlers I too am shocked and saddened. 2/n
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I had the privilege of working alongside both Timnit and Jeff at the
@DeepIndaba. I learned a lot from Timnit at the CIFAR ethics workshop, and worked again with Jeff at@Khipu_AI trying to improve AI in Latin America. 3/n1 reply 0 retweets 31 likesShow this thread -
I support Jeff because throughout those outreach events he was a true champion of making science and tech more diverse. He has put his time and his own money behind many diversity efforts. He is a remarkable individuals, but even remarkable individuals make mistakes. 4/n
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I have to support both Jeff an Timnit because I admire what they stand for. Because I know they are both suffering. But of course this must be investigated and with reflection and dialogue we need to change for the better 5/n
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Our fields have since their beginning been horrible to women and reflected many other biases in the world at large. We have a long way to go and sometimes the slow pace is truly annoying. We must do more 6/n
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However as
@natschluter best put it we must be able to deplore and act without bringing down an individual that has done so much social good too, not to mention the important role he is playing in fighting a pandemic as we speak 7/n2 replies 0 retweets 47 likesShow this thread -
Replying to @NandoDF @natschluter
I am disappointed
@NandoDF this long thread does nothing but to reinforce that@JeffDean is a good guy so we should be nice to him. Empathize with him. That is harmful to#DiversityandInclusion Good guys are enablers of racism and sexism.3 replies 4 retweets 21 likes -
Replying to @AnimaAnandkumar @NandoDF and
@AnimaAnandkumar I think it's a valid concern that the "good guy" argument has been brandished to defend enablers, but I worry that this comment ignores a lot of the context that@NandoDF has carefully articulated in this thread (including after your comment).2 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
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Replying to @AnimaAnandkumar @drao64 and
I'm curious why you're seeing this as a case of racial or gender discrimination. While it's obvious that Timnit was terminated in an awful manner, I don't see how Timnit's race or gender played any role.
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Dushyant Rao Retweeted Mhamed Jabri
Here's one answer from elsewhere in this thread:https://twitter.com/mhajabri/status/1336037581285416960?s=20 …
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Mhamed Jabri @mhajabriReplying to @AnimaAnandkumar @NandoDF @JeffDeanGenuine question Prof. Anima : I think Jeff and Meg's decision to terminate Timnit was entirely wrong, esp. the way they went about it. But how was it racially motivated ? Has a white manager sent the same public email + mentioned resignation, I think he would have been fired.1 reply 0 retweets 1 like - Show replies
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