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    1. Eric Rogers‏ @pastorErogers Nov 9
      Replying to @AndyTGD @HacimMb

      Is that an answer to the question I asked?

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    2. AndyTGD‏ @AndyTGD Nov 9
      Replying to @pastorErogers @HacimMb

      I deny your ad hoc framework, where the Scripture needs to explicitly teach infant baptism. It doesn't explicitly teach baptism of the mentally handicapped, but you'd want to affirm that. Because you're inconsistent.

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    3. AndyTGD‏ @AndyTGD Nov 9
      Replying to @AndyTGD @pastorErogers @HacimMb

      The covenant has always included infants since circumcision - ergo, the Scripture teaches infant baptism. That is what the Church has understood. You deny that with your novel Baptist categories, I get that.

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    4. Eric Rogers‏ @pastorErogers Nov 9
      Replying to @AndyTGD @HacimMb

      Let's be honest, there isn't any explicit support for infant baptism. None. Zip. Zero. There is explicit support for dreams, visions, gifts. Agreed?

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    5. AndyTGD‏ @AndyTGD Nov 9
      Replying to @pastorErogers @HacimMb

      Apart from household baptisms and the fact that Baptism into the covenant is circumcision? Sure, we don't see babies explicitly mentioned, at a time when the focus is entirely on adult converts. Shocking. No handicapped either. 1/2

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    6. AndyTGD‏ @AndyTGD Nov 9
      Replying to @AndyTGD @pastorErogers @HacimMb

      Regarding dreams, visions, gifts etc. There is no explicit support for their continuation, or their ceasing, from the text. All you have are inferences, as we all do. But I also have the Fathers to look to, which helps. Anyhow. 2/2

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    7. Eric Rogers‏ @pastorErogers Nov 9
      Replying to @AndyTGD @HacimMb

      That's simply not true. We are told they are to be expected in the last days, that his gifts are without repentance, and that they only end when we see Jesus face to face. At least you admit there is no explicit support of infant baptism.

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    8. Eric Rogers‏ @pastorErogers Nov 9
      Replying to @pastorErogers @AndyTGD @HacimMb

      So again, if the Bible explicitly affirms and demonstrates something, it should be believed. No question about it. If it is NOT explicit (as you have admitted is the case with infant baptism) then we don't know if it true. But one should sooner accept dreams, visions, gifts.

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    9. AndyTGD‏ @AndyTGD Nov 9
      Replying to @pastorErogers @HacimMb

      No, I didn't say there is no explicit support. There's explicit support in the nature of the covenant. In summary, its validity is so explicit & obvious that barely anyone prior to the Anabaptists argued against it. Apparently they're wiser than 1500 years of Fathers & Reformers.

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    10. Eric Rogers‏ @pastorErogers Nov 9
      Replying to @AndyTGD @HacimMb

      That isn't explicit support, it is inferred by you. It is never mentioned so by definition (as that is what "explicit" means) there can be no explicit support. Only vague connections assumed by those who wish it true.

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      AndyTGD‏ @AndyTGD Nov 9
      Replying to @pastorErogers @HacimMb

      No, saying that Baptism is circumcision is an explicit point recognized by the Apostles' successors and even Reformers. I'm not the one out by himself under a tree with his Bible inferring things about Scripture. I get that you don't want to see it like that, that's up to you.

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        2. Eric Rogers‏ @pastorErogers Nov 9
          Replying to @AndyTGD @HacimMb

          Like I said, you seem to have an authority beyond Scripture. I don't. #SolaScriptura

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        3. AndyTGD‏ @AndyTGD Nov 9
          Replying to @pastorErogers @HacimMb

          You can assume that and you're free to do so. Its just sad to see that you think you know better than the Reformed men who originated that phrase. Take care, brother and God bless.

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