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    1. Andreas Scherbaum‏ @ascherbaum 15 Apr 2019
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      And why are we discouraging even the small drive-by patches by making the process unnecessary complicated for people not familiar with the PostgreSQL development process?

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    2. Andres Freund (Tech)‏ @AndresFreundTec 15 Apr 2019
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      Well, as I previously said. There's very few first comer contributions that actually can just be applied, and the rest requires discussion. And those need to happen somewhere where others have a chance to intervene. Doing that in GH would mandate committers watching it.

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    3. Andres Freund (Tech)‏ @AndresFreundTec 15 Apr 2019
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      Honestly, I think there's somewhat of an infrastructure/process here (i.e. not having http://contributing.md  not auto-closing PRs with referral). But the much larger issue is that there's basically no human resources to do that kind of work.

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    4. Andres Freund (Tech)‏ @AndresFreundTec 15 Apr 2019
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      Replying to @AndresFreundTec @ascherbaum and

      Just adding more committers itself will barely help IMO (if not regress things) - what we need is committers that have this kind of work as a substantial portion of their day job. And then not get harassed / disadvantaged by doing fewer impressive features.

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    5. Andres Freund (Tech)‏ @AndresFreundTec 15 Apr 2019
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      And that requires resources. I think that's a much bigger issue than "allow github". Unless we have those there'll be not resources to merge trivial stuff either. It's not like there's not plenty of that on the lists.

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    6. Andres Freund (Tech)‏ @AndresFreundTec 15 Apr 2019
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      And I think it's not just committers where such resources are lacking. There's e.g. very little accurate docs for the development process, and related things. And I think that again is because it's largely unsexy to our employers.

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    7. Tomas Vondra‏ @fuzzycz 15 Apr 2019
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      Our developer docs are shit, no reason to beat around the bush. Random collection of wiki pages and blog posts in various stages of obsoleteness. If I was a newcomer, I'd be fucking confused WTF am I supposed to do. The TODO list with impossible tasks just adds insult to injury.

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    8. Andres Freund (Tech)‏ @AndresFreundTec 15 Apr 2019
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      Yea. Totally. I tried to collect dev process links recently to point somebody to them, and I think I just offered them an in-person introduction instead. Too embarrassing. Like I couldn't even understand what some of it was supposed to mean, and I've been doing this for a while.

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    9. Andres Freund (Tech)‏ @AndresFreundTec 15 Apr 2019
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      I think we should stop putting such major pieces of informationon the wiki. It's prone to getting out of date, get edits that aren't reviewed, etc. EVEN if a page is accurate and well written, by virtue of so many close-by pages being inaccurate, the content is not trustworthy.

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    10. Magnus Hagander‏ @magnushagander 15 Apr 2019
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      Agreed. A good starting point would be to delete much of what's there now, because it's wrong. No info is better than wrong info. A number of our formal policies were recently migrated from the wiki to the website. We should do the same for dev info (and fix it at that time)

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      Andres Freund (Tech)‏ @AndresFreundTec 15 Apr 2019
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      Replying to @magnushagander @fuzzycz and

      Agreed. Any chance for you to propose that on the list? I'd probably willing to help out by e.g. refreshing my CF docs patch from a while back (although it still should be edited for clarity by a second person later).

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