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Postgres developer, working at Microsoft. Also: politics nerd, expat German in the US. Account about politics, not tech. For the latter look to @AndresFreundTec

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    1. Josh Simmons‏ @joshsimmons Mar 30
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      Please, talk to @cra! At present the license does not conform to the Open Source Definition or the Open Source Hardware Definition. Which is to say... great job, thank you, and there's an even bigger opportunity to be found in using a proper open source license!

      2 replies 1 retweet 55 likes
    2. Tobie Langel‏ @tobie Mar 30
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      Given the legal requirements in the licensing terms (specific purpose only and time bound), I don’t see how that could possibly meet the OSD. It’s still 100% open source in spirit, imho. ❤️

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    3. Josh Simmons‏ @joshsimmons Mar 30
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      Replying to @tobie @cra and

      It's 100% generous in spirit, but I think you'll find that many in the open source ventilator and broader open source hardware community disagree that it's 100% open source in spirit.

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
    4. Tobie Langel‏ @tobie Mar 30
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      Replying to @joshsimmons @cra and

      Is there something nefarious going on in the license that I missed (I only skimmed through it).

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    5. Andres Freund (Pol)‏ @AndresFreundPol Mar 30
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      Replying to @tobie @joshsimmons and

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      Well, not necessarily the license (although I'm far from sure). But the context is that this appears to be a PR move after medtronic had some covid19 related bad press. Seehttps://twitter.com/AndresFreundPol/status/1244878523321290752 …

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      Replying to @AndresFreundPol @MedtronicCEO @Medtronic
      See https://www.propublica.org/article/taxpayers-paid-millions-to-design-a-low-cost-ventilator-for-a-pandemic-instead-the-company-is-selling-versions-of-it-overseas- …
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    6. Tobie Langel‏ @tobie Mar 31
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      Replying to @AndresFreundPol @joshsimmons and

      So much in this article underlines the failings of the for profit health system. It also begs the question, if the government funds the research to develop a ventilator, why isn’t the design open source from the get-go?

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    7. Andres Freund (Pol)‏ @AndresFreundPol Mar 31
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      Replying to @tobie @joshsimmons and

      One reason, among plenty others, is that it can be cheaper to buy on "normal" terms. If the US buys 10k units, but the maker also can sell 30k units to the wider market, economies of scale will allow cheaper per-unit prices.

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    8. Tobie Langel‏ @tobie Mar 31
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      Replying to @AndresFreundPol @joshsimmons and

      That seems orthogonal, though, no? Also open source designs push down prices because it’s way easier for suppliers to join the market.

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    9. Andres Freund (Pol)‏ @AndresFreundPol Mar 31
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      Replying to @tobie @joshsimmons and

      Large portion of the development risk / cost, as well as capabilities, is on the supplier though - they're not going to agree to just open source without an increased payoff roughly equal to lost sales

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    10. Andres Freund (Pol)‏ @AndresFreundPol Mar 31
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      Replying to @AndresFreundPol @tobie and

      And since getting regulatory approval is on supplier, additional makers wouldn't have a super easy time starting to sell anyway. Outside of times where emergency exceptions can realistically be expected.

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      Andres Freund (Pol)‏ @AndresFreundPol Mar 31
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      Replying to @AndresFreundPol @tobie and

      Don't get me wrong, I think there's plenty cases where that'd still be the right call.

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