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    1. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative 9 Apr 2019
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      I think the technical grounds for skepticism are stronger than the legal ones. There are millions of smartphones in use. Monitoring network traffic is not all that hard; many thousands of nerds are doing it. A regular outgoing audio stream would be really, really hard to hide.https://twitter.com/OrinKerr/status/1115706100920221697 …

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      I know a lot of very smart people who believe their phones are always listening to them to send them ads, even when all listening services (Siri, etc.) are turned off. I'm skeptical -- here's a quick thread on why.
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    2. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative 9 Apr 2019
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      You can get away with doing it on a handful of targeted devices (NSA does!) but if it were the DEFAULT behavior of any model, some geek running Wireshark would notice & make front page headlines almost immediately. Maybe YOU don’t know how look, but waaaay too many folks do.

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      Andres Freund (Pol)‏ @AndresFreundPol 9 Apr 2019
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      I'm doubtful it's happening too. But I'm not sure I buy the traffic analysis logic: First, it'd be easy enough to hide the traffic behind legitimate traffic. It'd not be that hard to bulk upload pending traffic when video calling or such.

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        2. Andres Freund (Pol)‏ @AndresFreundPol 9 Apr 2019
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          Replying to @AndresFreundPol @normative

          Second, no need to actually transfer audio. It wouldn't actually need to be high fidelity voice recognition needing online access. Phones are more than powerful enough to accurately parse words for add targeting. And not just recently.

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        3. Andres Freund (Pol)‏ @AndresFreundPol 9 Apr 2019
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          And we know that there's plenty regular-ish outgoing requests on phones.

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