Does God change?
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Replying to @AnarchicEvolist @Math_oma
Did I take the wrong turn and end up in Pantheistwood again?
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Replying to @RobinVMars @Math_oma
Hey am I wrong or not? Name calling isn't gonna do much, no?
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Replying to @AnarchicEvolist @Math_oma
I mean you just asked, but I do think it's a wrongly framed question. Yhere are things which are neither God, nor parts of God. In other words, things exist, yes.
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Replying to @RobinVMars @Math_oma
But are there things which are wholly apart from God?
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Replying to @AnarchicEvolist @Math_oma
Not in that they can exist without Him, but for a thing to be a thing in itself, it has to be, in a sense, wholly apart from God. The problem w/ this, much like that w/ Parmenides, is ambiguity. But we stand on the shoulders of giants he couldn't count on, so we gotta be precise.
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Replying to @RobinVMars @Math_oma
But is it not so that if a thing is wholly dependent on God for its existence, it must be in some way be connected to God, and to be connected is to not be wholly apart, no?
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Replying to @AnarchicEvolist @Math_oma
Ofc not. Neither is anything completely apart from anything else, but if we need to use "completely," we're already granting that everything is not one with God, so it doesn't follow that if God doesn't change, said thing can't either.
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Certainly, but would you not say that if change exists in the things that exist, and these things have their cause in God, and the effect is contained within the cause, that change must at least potentially be found in God?
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