Which Muslim philosophers, poets and mystics have you read?
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Replying to @AnarchicEvolist
'Mystics,' please. If you're going to go the Sufi route then you're engaging in ad hoc argumentation. You might as well come at me with Alawi as an example of 'good Muslims' but we're not dealing with syncretists, we're talking about Islam at its Sunni core.
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Replying to @NocturnalSatyr @AnarchicEvolist
Which is guilty of the following sins: 1) Over emphasis on divine simplicity 2) Abstraction of God taken to absurdity (Qu'ran identifies God as being beyond ALL human understanding) 3) Intolerant Monotheism 4) Ahistorical revisionism
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Replying to @NocturnalSatyr
1) what about the 99 divine names? 2) this seems just not true, is all the theology produced by Muslims useless? 3) War is essential part of life, but certainly a good point 4) not sure what you're getting at, revisionism of pre-muslim paganism?
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Replying to @AnarchicEvolist
1 & 2) I don't presuppose the Qu'ran has a univocal view, it's self-contradictory. The 99 problems & the bitch not being one doesn't relate to other writings on Allah's abstractness 3) It's a shitty way to promote beliefs though, worse religions & ideologies win out
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Replying to @NocturnalSatyr @AnarchicEvolist
4) Quran's understanding of Jesus, Prophets, & the like is nothing short than ahistorical. If you want to "Joseph Smith" it and go on blind faith- then fine, but then how does an infidel & a mohammaden meet in the middle? What do we use to objectively ascertain the faith?
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Replying to @NocturnalSatyr
The Quran does not understand, but are you referring to the denial of the divinity of Jesus?
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Replying to @AnarchicEvolist
Yes of course. It flies in the face of everything the early Gnostic & canonical texts present. Christ (I'd argue) asserts: 1) Polytheistic ontology 2) His role as a God 3) Pre-existent state 4) Him being the Son of God None of this correlates with the Qu'ran.
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Replying to @AnarchicEvolist
I'd like to think you're joking. Christ's comments in John 10 place him within the Divine Council of Psalm 82 ('ye be gods but shall die like men'). He as a 'Son of God,' sits with the elohim (gods) in front of El. This is basic Hebrew cosmology, hence the charge of blasphemy
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Ah, it is confusing because you use both God as in Being and god as in superior being (more commonly referred to as Angels) in the same way
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