Alyssa I disagree. The current evidence is based on a single incident of bad judgment. An isolated and minor social error should not be catastrophic to a man's career (eg: this seems to have been non-contact). The problem is when a man has a pervasive pattern of abusing women.
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Zero tolerance is too extreme & makes it too easy to deliberately sabotage someone's career with a single fake claim. A lapse in judgment about what is 'funny' is not the same as feeling entitled to a woman's body or efforts, or actively predating women.
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I am waiting for other instances to be reported. If it's a pattern then yes, he should step down.
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"zero tolerance" is a reaction. Assessing each case for evidence of a pattern is a *response*. We need to respond, not react.
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Then in good faith reassess in a week because the other cases are sure to surface and confirm you hypothesis.
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I agree with you, Cats. One person made an accusation against George Takai, no others since. Should we hold him guilty on more accusation? If you look at the pic, Franken isn’t actually touching her breasts.
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We need to start at the top, first and for most with Trump. As long as he gets a pass this will remain a huge problem.
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If these were in any validity to these, you don't think the left wing media would be all over it more than Roy Moore's story?
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They would be if they weren't inundated with the 50 illegal things he does every day. Did you not hear your Head Idiot on that bus? Please stop breeding.
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When be said "you could" do it if you're rich and powerful? Did the audio ever show that he actually did it? I didn't hear that part. Did you?
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Oh, I don't know. Maybe look up what happened to Ivana. And curious, you think what he said in the bus is appropriate for a presidential candidate?
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It isn't the most proper thing ever said but if you think for one second that kind of talk I'd singular to Trump and not other men in power, you're delusional. You think Bill Clinton and Obama never said this kind of stuff in private?
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I highly doubt Obama would say it, and I really don't give a shit about the Clintons; but this is classic Trumptard - He may have murdered someone but look at all the other people who have murdered? Is that really how low you want to set the bar?
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1/ I agree with
@ladykayaker too. What Senator Franken did was wrong and not funny - he’s looking at the camera so you know he thought it was a joke. I’m not defending his behavior. But it’s not at the level of 17 allegations of sexual harassment (trump), -
My friend has pictures of a frat brat looking at the camera while he’s “pretending” to fondle her boobs. She was passed out. He did jail time for that “joke”.
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Franken isn't making physical contact in the picture. details
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Neither did the frat brat.
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